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Interview: Flashpoint’s Amy Jo Johnson tackles filmmaking

Credit Flashpoint with re-energizing Amy Jo Johnson. The American actress–she’s currently working on getting her Canadian citizenship–had moved to Montreal and was giving up on acting for good. Then her agent called with an audition that changed and made her fall in love with acting again.

CTV’s Flashpoint ran for five seasons, garnering critical and fan acclaim and turning Johnson, Hugh Dillon, Michael Cram, Enrico Colantoni, David Paetkau and Sergio Di Zio into household names. Johnson says the experiences on Flashpoint gave her the confidence and education to head down the path she’s currently on, writing and directing her own projects. The latest, The Space Between, stars Cram and Sonya Salomaa as Mitch and Jackie, a couple who are desperately trying to get pregnant with no success. The movie recently launched an Indiegogo campaign to amass funding in advance of a spring 2015 shoot.

Before we talk about The Space Between and what’s coming up for you, let’s go back in time to Flashpoint.
Amy Jo Johnson: OK, I like going back to that.

Flashpoint was a multiple award-winning drama that really ushered in a new group of great dramas in this country. What was it like to be a part of that while it was happening?
It was amazing. I had actually just sort of quit acting before I got the show. I had moved my life to Montreal and was trying to decompress and sort of switch gears. And then I got a call for an audition for Flashpoint the same moment I learned that I was pregnant. I was like, ‘OK, I’ll go if they know I’m pregnant.’ And they were like, ‘Yup, we love her, we want her on the show.’ I came to Toronto to shoot and I got a look at the original pilot and I said, ‘Oh my gosh, I just hit the jackpot. This is an amazing show.’ I fell back in love with acting again. Those five years were just amazing. I sort of found my confidence and found my new home as well. I love Toronto.

When you say you regained your confidence … does that mean you had lost it?
I think so. I was turning 35, I was living in L.A., I was single, I was starting to panic about not having a family and children yet. I found the environment in L.A. … that I was constantly comparing myself to the people around me and it was destroying me. I needed to get out of that. I thought that I didn’t like acting. I thought that I was quitting acting, but I was just letting go of that part of my life.

I constantly hear from actors and actresses about the grind that pilot season is. Now it’s a year long thing and it must be a grind.
I can’t stand it. I’m driving my agents nuts right now because I’m so focused on The Space Between. I had an audition for Suits today. Who wouldn’t go in for an audition for Suits? Guess what? This girl is not going in. [Laughs.]

Why not audition?
Right now it’s because it’s taking every second I have to get The Space Between off the ground while balancing being a mom and having the time for that. And then also, honestly, I think I’m in a transition period in my life too. Getting older, the heartache that you go through getting yourself ready, putting yourself out there that way is so draining. In your 20s it’s fine and it’s fun, but now … [Laughs.]

Well, if you’re in control of your own stuff, writing and acting in projects that you’ve created…
Exactly. That’s fun and amazing. I did Covert Affairs earlier this summer and that was really fun. They offered me the part and it was so amazing of them to do that. That was a little blessing.

Was it hard to shake off the character of Jules Callaghan after playing her for five seasons?
No, it wasn’t hard. I miss wearing the tactical uniform!

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Working with the show’s creators, Stephanie Morgenstern and Mark Ellis, was kind of your eduction for what you’re doing now.
I certainly found it incredibly inspiring. They made this fantastic show and they were actors before and started writing and now they’re doing their second show. They were very, very inspiring.

OK, let’s shift gears to The Space Between. You’ve already written and directed shorts … how did the idea for this one come about?
The first short I did was called Bent and that was about lifelong friends and there was a part in Bent where this pregnant woman confessed during the story that she had slept with somebody else and the baby wasn’t her husband’s. That’s where I got the idea and the characters in The Space Between are based off of Jackie and Mitch from Bent, but it’s a different story because it’s a departure. In The Space Between they’re trying to get pregnant and can’t because of infertility on Mitch’s part. She goes and gets pregnant with somebody else who happens to be a red-headed university kid. She does this behind Mitch’s back and the beginning of the movie is him finding out the baby is not his. It’s a comedy.

Let’s talk about the Indiegogo campaign for The Space Between. How important is it for a budding writer and director like yourself to have a community that helps you create your own projects?
For me, it’s the only way at this point to create this new career for myself. It gives the film a life and a following even before it’s been made, which is such a gift. It’s nice to have the supporters, the people who have followed my career through the years, come on this journey with me as well. Through the campaign there are ways for people to become part of the film and be a part of the process. I like creating a community around the movie before it’s even made.

Is your goal to ultimately use these smaller, community funded projects as a stepping stone to bigger things?
It’s definitely a stepping stone for so many reasons. It’s proving to me that I can do this and it’s giving me practice. I have a script called Crazier Than You which is really may baby and the one that I’ll do maybe after The Space Between, but it’s the one that I wrote about my mother’s life and I can’t wait to make that film. But I want that to be a $5 million budget. So, we’re going to make my first feature and prove that I can direct and make a good little film with a much smaller budget.

Check out Johnson’s Indiegogo campaign for The Space Between and make a donation.

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Review: Heartland celebrates 125 episodes with fireworks and fistfights

Heartland celebrated Episode 125–making it the longest-running hour-long drama in Canadian TV history–with fireworks. As Amber Marshall told me recently, Prince Ahmed isn’t the type of guy to take “no” for an answer. So I wasn’t really all that surprised when he rode up to Amy moments after she had waved goodbye to Ty at the beginning of “Secrets and Lies.” And there really was no sugar-coating his comment that Amy looked beautiful: the Prince was there to ride off with her heart.

I can’t help but think he knew exactly what he was doing when he insisted on accompanying Amy back to Heartland; those few minutes were enough to get Tim thinking of landing deals with the Prince, Georgie upset with Amy all over again and Ty steamed his royal rival was back. Things only got worse when Ahmed asked Amy to accompany him to check out some horses; he made a side visit to a mansion he’s thinking of buying. You know, so he can be even closer to Amy. Sheesh. I have to give him credit for saying “I love you,” and getting things out in the open but I was relieved Amy nipped that in the bud and severed her relationship with him. (Things got a little dusty at my house during the conversation between Georgie and Amy about the video.)

Who else was surprised Amy, Georgie and Lou didn’t pull Tim aside when he showed up with Ahmed to tell him about that admission of love? If they had, it would have saved everyone from that super-awkward dinner and the massive “I hate you!” from Georgie. And while I was more than happy to see Ty deliver a head-butt and a punch to the Prince, I can’t help but think Ahmed will make life hell for him by laying charges on Ty or something. Or perhaps all he really wanted was to drive a wedge between the engaged couple. He certainly accomplished that.

Meanwhile, Ty’s new gig at the wildlife sanctuary has become more than a full-time job and Ben’s laid-back attitude when he was trying to woo Ty has been replaced–so far at least–by a stressed dude with an iPhone. Best moment of the night: Ty being spit on by an escaped llama. Second worst moment of the night: mama wolf dying and just one pup surviving.

Worst moment? Ty saying the following to Amy while “Say Something” played in the background: “Sometimes we lose things and no matter how hard we try to hold on, and without even knowing it, we’ve lost it.”

Thoughts on 125 episodes, and last night’s episode

  • How lucky are these folks to film Heartland in such a stunning location? I jealously pine for the foothills of Alberta every Sunday night
  • Is it just me that has the show’s the theme music stuck in their head? Between that and Murdoch Mysteries, my mind is full of CBC show tunes
  • Do you think Tim should really go on the rodeo tour? Part of me says yes, but the thought of him being away from Heartland for an extended period of time would be a bummer. Who would Jack tease?
  • “I have a sore knee today Lou. And I bet if I looked up ‘sore knee’ on the Internet I’d find a bunch of articles and opinions making me think I have to have my whole damn leg taken off at the hip.” Reason No. 456 why I love Jack
  • I’m a little conflicted over Lou making such a big deal out of whether Katie was behind on her skills. I understand Lou wanting to make sure her daughter had all the help she needed, but she was going a little overboard, no?

Heartland airs Sundays at 7 p.m. on CBC.

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Aaron Poole rules a lonely, Strange Empire

It’s lonely at the top. Poor Captain John Slotter, trying to sort through his daddy issues and pave his own way in the wild west, with the help of his medium/madame wife Isabelle and with the backdrop of the massacre of a caravan-full of men that he may or may not have engineered. It’s exhausting work, juggling the start-up of a mine, the extension of the transcontinental railway, and putting the now-stranded women to work as whores.

“Not only is there sex and violence and some cool eye candy, but the events are based on the fabric of our country,” says Strange Empire’s Aaron Poole, who plays Slotter with a mixture of cruelty, pain and bravado. “Some of the violence is so brutal because there’s this sense we’re telling family secrets. There’s times when ‘cut’ will be called and we all start moving, because that’s what we’re trained to do, but there’s this hush of having witnessed something. I think the CBC should be lauded for that. ”

“It’s THE story. Our nationality came out of different incorporated areas to protect the use of the land and the resources in the earth. The story is about moving people off that land to dig that shit up out of the earth. That’s what the violence comes out of, that’s what the magic comes out of, that’s what the drama comes out of, that’s what all of Strange Empire comes out of.”

He sees parallels with today’s stories too, including how mining companies are protected and how different modes of life clash as populations get more dense. “Those are the fights that occur in the microcosm of Strange Empire and Janestown.”

Gathered at Janestown are those who are desperate to keep their way of life “and make some vision of the future that can salvage the thousands of years on the land they’ve established” and those — like John Slotter — who have come from afar to “turn what they see as a blank canvas into their version of paradise. That’s the struggle.”

Though he’s had recurring roles and guest spots in television before — “I was in purgatory on a cop show for a year” — Poole thought of himself as a film guy before Strange Empire came along, including producing and acting in the award-winning This Beautiful City.

“Strange Empire has the historical authenticity but [creator Laurie Finstad Knizhnik] mythologizes it and elevates it.”

“This is one of the best creative experiences I’ve ever had. It’s like a novel, and there’s all these little embellishments that get to be explored off the main line.”

There’s some doubt his character was responsible for the massacre — thought not in Kat Loving’s mind — but Slotter rules Janestown through fear and with a complete disregard for others’ autonomy, and violence surrounds him.  It’s difficult for Poole to leave that darkness behind him at the end of the day, but it’s not clear he wants to.

He talks of living in Vancouver as an immersive experience, away from his daughter and his life back home in Toronto, and he chose to live in Gastown because it’s of the same period as Strange Empire. “I choose to paint myself in a corner in those ways,” he says. “I can go relax as Aaron, obviously. I mean, I’m an asshole, but I’m my own kind of asshole.”

“You do anything for 13 hours in a row and you see it when you close your eyes. That’s part of what I’m loving about the creative process.”

He points out that the set of Strange Empire assists with that immersion. There is a soundstage for the interior of the Slotters’ mansion, but the rest of Janestown lives intact on the grounds of the sprawling set that used to be home to Arctic Air. The geography of the exterior of the mansion, the cribs, bunkhouse, and graveyard — none of it is cheated.

“We were shooting a brutal scene for my character and there was a murder of crows that had decided to camp there for the morning,” Poole recounts. “They were cawing in the shot for the whole time. It was like the pathetic fallacy – it felt like the environment was contributing to the scene.”

“Leaving it behind is hard. I don’t want to entirely. My days off are boring. I mean Vancouver’s a lovely city but this is the juice, man. If you’ve decided to act and write about cool stories, this is such a cool story.”

Strange Empire airs Mondays at 9pm on CBC. Catch up on previous episodes at cbc.ca/strangeempire.

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Don’t panic redux: What you had to say about the CBC

Yesterday I gave my thoughts on what to make of CBC’s early season ratings slump. My theory is that CBC is changing but their built-in audience hasn’t yet, and to realize their vision, the public broadcaster will need some patience. Here’s what you had to say:

Some  offered other suggestions for why the ratings have declined besides fierce US competition, aging shows, and small marketing budgets:

And we all speculated on how they could build their audience, including patience:

What do you think – are you worried about your favourite show’s ratings?  Ideas for how CBC can attract more viewers … or if that should even be their goal?

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Comments and queries for the week of Oct. 17

I loved Dark Angel, which has become a reference point for Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory, but I need Bo and the Lost Girl gang. We need strong, independent women and sensitive, nurturing men. We need, in these dark political times, a glimmer of hope. We need the voices that say, “I make my own choices.” Please help the millions of fans who didn’t know they could vote. Bring Bo back!!–Karen

Thanks for your support for Lost Girl, but our poll wasn’t to bring the show back, just which Canadian one you’d go into a cage match for. Production has already wrapped on the final season.

Hey Max & Shred, I’m a big fan of your show! Love, your biggest fan.–Andrea

Thanks for the note, Andrea. You can reach the boys via @JonnyGrayy, @JakeGoodman9 or @maxandshred.

Will UpTV be showing the new season of Heartland? I am in the Miami area and so far I have just seen repeats.–Patty

Hey Patty, thanks for writing in. UpTV is a little behind the CBC here in Canada: Season 7 is currently being broadcast with no plans for Season 8 yet.

I am disappointed in how the interesting scripts that deal with horses of all kinds was taken over by people drama on Oct 12th. I loved Heartland up until now, but my family members agreed that we missed all the beautiful horses this time with their stories. Something was missing in this episode and it was the horses! The part that we love! We also love the people, but everyone was having stress and problems … too much for one episode of a family show.–Andree

Got a question of comment about Canadian TV? Email me at greg@tv-eh.com!

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