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A.R. Wilson has been interviewing actors, writers and musicians for over 20 years. In addition to TV-Eh, her work has appeared in Curve, ROCKRGRL, and Sound On Sight. A native of Detroit, she grew up watching Mr. Dressup and The Friendly Giant on CBC, which led to a lifelong love of Canadian television. Her perpetual New Year's resolution is to become fluent in French.

X Company 301: The spies return in tension-filled chess match “Creon vs. Ixion”

It was disappointing to learn the third season of CBC’s X Company would be its last. But after the World War II spy drama’s taut and nuanced second season, it’s satisfying to know creators Mark Ellis and Stephanie Morgenstern are ending the show on their own terms. Wrapping the show after three seasons will spare it from the meandering storylines that often bedevil shows that air four or more seasons, and it will also allow Ellis and Morgenstern to keep the spies’ body count honest.

“You’re not supposed to live a lot of weeks, if you do live,” Ellis tells TV-Eh. “We wanted to be truthful to that history.”

To that end, the team lost smooth-talking American adman Tom (Dustin Milligan) during the disastrous Dieppe invasion last season. His death looms large in the Season 3 premiere, “Creon vs. Ixion,” written by Ellis and Morgenstern, as the remaining team members struggle with grief and search for new reasons to continue fighting. Meanwhile, Sinclair (Hugh Dillon) comes face to face with the Allies’ new prize asset, Franz Faber (Torben Liebrecht), who flipped to the Allied side in the final scene of the Season 2 finale.

Or did he?

Here’s a sneak peek of the episode.

Sinclair vs. Faber
Sit back and enjoy the fireworks between Hugh Dillon and Torben Liebrecht as Sinclair and Faber try to size each other up, playing a high-stakes chess match involving human lives.

“Their scenes together are pretty explosive,” Morgenstern says. “These are two fantastic actors, so different in their performance styles, and so different in their sensibility, but the two of them as actors get along like a house on fire. It was actually quite fun to watch.”

It was apparently great fun for Dillon and Liebrecht, too.

“Hugh said to me, ‘I’ve rediscovered why I love acting so much, acting in scenes with Torben,’” Ellis recalls.

Can Sabine be trusted?
Not only are Faber’s loyalties unclear, Sabine’s intentions are also uncomfortably hazy, now that she’s been told the truth about her husband’s work.

“She becomes a bit of a loose cannon, and she stops following orders and she starts saying exactly what she thinks, and she doesn’t care what people think anymore,” says Morgenstern. “She’s had enough of being a porcelain doll.”

Look for her to seek the help of her father, high-ranking Nazi true-believer Obergruppenführer Ulrich Schmidt (Morten Suurballe).

What happened to Miri?
Still reeling from the loss of Tom, Neil (Warren Brown) and Harry (Connor Price) hit the road in search of Miri (Sara Garcia), who was last seen providing sniper cover from a church tower at Dieppe.

Action Krystina
In Sinclair’s absence, Krystina (Lara Jean Chorostecki) gets to leave Camp X on an important — and personal — mission.

Alfora
Are Aurora (Evelyne Brochu) and Alfred (Jack Laskey) still a thing? Yes. The problem is the wrong people know it.

X Company airs Wednesdays at 9 p.m. on CBC. 

Images courtesy of CBC. 

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X Company’s Mark Ellis and Stephanie Morgenstern preview ‘tragic, hopeful’ final season

When CBC’s gripping World War II spy drama X Company returns for its third and final season on Wed., Jan. 11, at 9 p.m., the lines between the show’s heroes and villains will be more blurred than ever.

“Aurora (Evelyne Brochu) and the other characters have to go deep into the territory of the enemy, and to pass for the enemy, they have to begin to adjust what they do to belong,” explains series co-creator Stephanie Morgenstern. “After a while, you start to lose track of what you’re doing that is you and what you’re doing in the role that you have to play, and it leaves a greater and greater stain on your soul.”

Season 2 ended with Tom’s (Dustin Milligan) gut-wrenching death at Dieppe and Franz Faber’s (Torben Liebrecht) decision to flip to the Allied side. Both events will cast long shadows over Season 3, as the depleted spy team tries to find the will to go on, and Sinclair (Hugh Dillon) tries to determine if Faber  — and his disillusioned wife, Sabine (Livia Matthes) — can be trusted.

“Is our enemy becoming us to infiltrate us?” asks co-creator Mark Ellis. “Or is he legitimately turned to try and do the right thing for the Allied cause? We won’t know until the last seconds.”

Meanwhile, all the shifting battle lines will take their toll on the team, says Morgenstern.

“This is a season where everything is put into question, whether it is right to follow orders, or whether it is right to trust the person who’s alongside you.”

Sitting down with TV-Eh in Toronto, Ellis and Morgenstern talk about the end of the series, what’s coming up for the spy team and the Fabers in Season 3, and their plans to produce more serialized, sophisticated television in the future.

Season 3 will be X Company’s final season. Do you feel you’ve had enough time to tell the story you wanted to tell?
Stephanie Morgenstern: At the very beginning of the writing process, we knew this was our last season, and it was something that felt completely right to us.

Mark Ellis: There’s a thousand war stories you could tell, but there’s two things we wanted to be truthful. One is that our mantra from the beginning of the show has been the life expectancy of these people is 50 per cent in the field. You’re not supposed to live a lot of weeks, if you do live. We wanted to be truthful to that history. We also wanted to ground the show in a war story and not multiple potential stories. And what I mean by that is the first episode of X Company ends with the image of an elite Gestapo officer looking at the face of a Canadian spy, and the series as a whole is about the growing relationship between that German Gestapo officer and this group of five,  and reducing number, of spies. So the story ends in a meaningful, tragic, hopeful way in the last episode of Season 3, but it’s a story that comes full circle, and that’s something that we engineered.

The Season 3 theme is that sometimes to defeat the enemy, you have to become the enemy. What will that mean for the spy team?
ME: Aurora goes from having the occasional coffee date or a walk in the park with Sabine to having to live the cover of Helene Bauer full time. And she’s pulled apart from her teammates, and she takes a job working for a German office in Poland that doesn’t do very nice things. She becomes in many ways complicit with the Nazi machine so she can fulfill a bigger objective. What does that do to you when it screams against every fibre of your moral conscience? How does she cope with it? What will she do to fulfill that objective?

SM: I think we see the same struggle as well in Faber, who’s an extremely conflicted character, as you know, and in Duncan Sinclair as well, who comes into the field again to match wits with Franz Faber. In a way, these are two spymasters who have to begin a very intense chess game, where the pawns are people you’re close to and even strangers. We find that we’re kind of playing by the same playbook. If the enemy is going to make this kind of move, sometimes you have to make the same kind of move yourself.

ME: When Franz Faber comes to the team at the end of the second season and says, ‘What is it you want me to do?’ it feels like we’ve flipped him, he’s going to work for us, he’s going to turn to the Allied cause. In Season 3, we spend all season wondering if that’s true. Is our enemy becoming us to infiltrate us? Or is he legitimately turned to try and do the right thing for the Allied cause? We won’t know until the last seconds.

The Aurora/Faber/Sabine triangle was a highlight of Season 2, and Evelyne Brochu, Torben Liebrecht, and Livia Matthes play wonderfully off each other. Did you always plan to give that story so much time, or did your plans evolve based on the strength of your actors?
ME: I think that there are several levels to the choice to make Faber and Sabine more present in the storylines. One is that you realize that you have very extraordinary actors on your hands, and Torben Liebrecht, in particular, is an actor who is very ready to plumb complex emotional depths within himself. On another level, probably the most complex character we’ve created is the character of Franz Faber, because his love exists on different levels — his love of country, his love of his wife, his love of his son — and yet he’s corrupted each of these things in different ways to try and protect himself and try and protect his family. He’s a great way to be able to test our main characters and for us to be able to look at how Aurora copes with having to become the same kind of warrior that Franz Faber has had to become in Season 3.

SM: If you’re enjoying the Aurora/Sabine/Faber triangle, you’re going to have a really fun season. Because we see much more of [Sabine] and, in fact, we have fun with tracking her evolution from being in some ways an innocent, overprotected young woman who hasn’t even considered the depths that her country’s going to to take on the destiny it feels it deserves. She has a journey from that to a person who has been forced to face the brutal truths of what’s going on around her and in her name. We’re going to meet the character of her father, who is an extremely high-ranking Nazi, and with whom she has a very, very strong bond of allegiance with . . . And the relationship between her and Aurora has sparks all the way through it. They become very intimate frenemies all the way until the very last scene, which I think is going to take people by surprise.

It sounds like Sabine’s father is going to be a major player this season. 
ME: Yeah, the real wild card in Season 3 is Obergruppenführer Ulrich Schmidt, who’s played by Morten Suurballe, the lead in the original Danish version of The Killing. He’s an extraordinary Danish actor, and we had to find an actor that could stand up to Torben Liebrecht, who is such a presence and a character who has at turns been villainous and very complex at the same time.

SM: [Schmidt] is a fully, fully committed Nazi. He believes fully in the entitlement of Germany to rule the world. But at the same time, he has another side as well, which is he’ll do anything for Sabine, his little protected child. He dotes on her, he does what he thinks is best, and it’s always out of a sense of love. This is the contradiction in him, that we see a truly dark side, which I think is very faithful to the beliefs, the literal Nazi beliefs, about human superiority over other humans.

Tom was killed in the Season 2 finale. How will everyone be coping with his loss in the Season 3 premiere? 
ME: I think we saw Neil (Warren Brown) and Harry (Connor Price) stand on the beach in Dieppe more or less exploding with the grief of Tom, and we were seeing Harry spiraling and becoming this much darker version of himself. Neil has lost his best friend. These two men, who are each in very different and desperate places, wind up turning towards each a little bit more, so we see a gathering bond between Harry and Neil. We see a friendship emerge. They’re both changed. I think we see a turn towards optimism for Harry, and we see a change in Neil’s mantra as well. He’s gone from being in Season 1 a soldier who wants to kill every German to seeing that Germans have a conscience on occasion, and I think he’s evolved to a point to where he’s no longer fighting a war based on ideology or trying to avenge people that he’s lost. He’s trying to protect everyone that still remains.

Is there anything else you can tease about Season 3? 
ME: There’s room for levity this season as well. And one of the things we talked about with the writers in the beginning when breaking the season was, ‘What haven’t we seen?’ And one of the things that we hadn’t seen is Alfred smile. We’ve never seen him have a normal moment, a happy time. And the actor, Jack Laskey, is such a warm, open-hearted, funny, charming man, and we wanted to be able to find opportunities for Alfred to exist outside of the constant sturm und drang of synesthesia and memory. Yes, he still fights his memory, and the burden of his memory continues to grow, but he also gets to feel what it’s like to kiss a girl a time or two. [laughs] Not to spoil too much.

SM: It’s funny, because when Aurora goes undercover, she has to do some of the darkest deeds she’s ever done, and when Alfred goes undercover as a Polish civilian, he gets a little, tiny microcosm of what it is to be normal, which he has never experienced. He’s never had a normal family around a table. He’s never had a simple meal with people having a laugh and playing games after dinner. So we get to see a lighter side of him as well.

Stephanie, directing has been a longtime goal of yours, and you directed the final two episodes of Season 3. Was the experience all you hoped it would be?
SM: I’m too close to the content to be able to answer that objectively. It was an extraordinary, terrifying, satisfying experience. It felt like everything [came together], like I’ve been acting since I was 12, and I’ve been writing for less than that, showrunning for less than that. So all of these experiences that have sort of piled onto each other have each given me a different angle on how to tell a story, from the first inception of Alfred and Aurora to the final the culmination of what their journey is. And directing felt like everything converging at once, everything paying off at once. Being able to talk to actors in a language they understand and being able to access the story we started developing so many months ago in a way that a guest director might not have been able to, it felt right. It felt satisfying. It felt…

ME: Scary?

SM: [laughs] Absolutely scary. Yeah! But I’m very proud of the work I was able to do surrounded by this incredible team. The actors gave so generously, and also the First AD (assistant director) and the DOP (director of photography) both became my water wings on the right and left side as I was thrown into the deep end. They kept me afloat. And this was based also on working with these folks for three years and knowing that they had my trust and I had their trust. There could not have possibly been a more supportive stage for me to take this first step onto in the final two episodes.

The idea for X Company evolved from your 2001 short film, Remembrance. How does it feel to have completed the project 15 years later? 
ME: It feels like we’re better equipped to tell that story than we would have been 15 years ago. We developed a feature film script, and every once in a while it mistakenly falls out of a drawer, and we have to avert our eyes from how horrible it is. So we’re very glad that we’ve been able to mature into telling a fairly complex serialized storyline that we wouldn’t have been able to in years past.

Now I have a real sense of, ‘What’s next?’ When you have something that’s been part of your life for 15 years, and you brought that story to its conclusion — that was the last drawer script that we had! [laughs] So it makes the future a little scary, but it makes it also liberating, and it feels good to know there’s a blank canvas waiting to be painted on again.

Do you have any idea what you’d like to paint on that canvas? After the back-to-back successes of Flashpoint and X Company, I know a lot of people are very interested in what you have planned next.
ME: I think we’re interested in shorter format serialized storytelling as our next project. So possibly something like a six-episode series, or four to eight. But there’s some really rich storytelling that can be done these days. There’s an appetite for challenging storylines, and we’d like to continue to evolve as the kind of writers who cut their teeth in very episodic procedural television to something that’s a little more serialized and sophisticated.

One last question about X Company. The show’s historical lessons are, unfortunately, still very relevant today. Is there anything in particular you hope viewers take away from the series, given the current political environment in the U.S. and elsewhere? 
ME: Hitler used to say, “Let’s make Germany great again.” It’s too easy to draw direct parallels between that regime and what’s happening in the United States, but I think you could watch X Company, and even if you just look past the parallels that exist now in ideology, if you look past the fact that here’s a man who in World War II rose to power because he nurtured a climate of fear,  of distrusting of your neighbor…

SM: Of scapegoating, hatred, how different we are from each other, how some people are naturally better than other people.

ME: You could look past all those things and just look at the images on the screen, and you will see images in Season 3 of X Company that you can also see on social media right now, on Facebook, Twitter, CNN. It’s disturbing. But I also hope that people can look at what our main characters are doing, which is they are getting involved, they’re getting invested, they’re standing up, they’re addressing injustice — they’re resisting.

X Company airs Wednesdays at 9 p.m. on CBC.

Images courtesy of CBC. 

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This Life Season 2 finale: Showrunner Joseph Kay on Natalie’s decision to “Choose Life”

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen This Life Episode 210, “Choose Life.”

Natalie Lawson (Torri Higginson) has been on an emotional roller coaster throughout the second season of CBC’s This Life. She gutted her way through the side effects of her cancer drug trial, learned she was in partial remission, dealt with the return of her ex-husband, David (Louis Ferreira), suddenly lost her mother, Janine (Janet-Laine Green), and nearly died in emergency surgery. All the while, she tried to plan for what will happen to her children if she succumbs to her disease. But in Sunday’s season finale, “Choose Life,” written by showrunner Joseph Kay, Natalie discovers she’s out of treatment options—and has little choice but to finally relinquish control and come to peace with her situation.

“So much of the show has been about Natalie preparing for [her kids] and trying to control them,” explains Kay. “We just wanted to put her in this position where all she could do was accept it and live in the moment.”

Natalie wasn’t the only one to have a moment of clarity in the episode. Caleb (James Wotherspoon), Emma (Stephanie Janusauskas) and Romy (Julia Scarlett Dan) also came to new understandings about who they are and what they want out of life. Meanwhile, Matthew (Rick Roberts) and Nicole (Marianne Farley) found themselves at an interesting crossroads in their marriage, Oliver (Kristopher Turner) reconciled with Gerald (Peter MacNeill), and Maggie (Lauren Lee Smith) showed off her new-found maturity.

Kay joins us by phone to break down “Choose Life” and tease what may be coming up next for the Lawson family, should CBC greenlight a third season.

Janine’s funeral brings everyone together in the finale and moves several storylines along. Was that one of the motivations you had for writing her death?
Joseph Kay: The major reason that we felt her death was necessary—and it was something that we thought about for a very long time—was that in a show about this woman who is, from the very first scene of the show, preparing to die and trying to sort of get power over it because she knows it’s coming, it was important that someone needed to die. Just to tell her that this is what it is, and you can’t get ready for this. It had to be someone close to her, and, obviously, it was never going to be one of the kids, and who is closer than your mother? I don’t mean to say that we did it only for Natalie, but that was the line of thinking. So much of what goes through Natalie’s head is, ‘How can I prepare for this? How can I make sure my children are ready? How can I control this? How can it happen in a way that it’s going to be OK, and I know it’s going to be OK?’ And that’s just not the way it works, you know?

So that was the motivation, and then when we decided to really get behind it and do it, then we realized that it was the perfect crisis point for numerous threads that we had been dangling to come together. Family comes together in crisis, and it crystallizes things or it diffuses things or it has a way of cutting through distance, reminding you who has got your back in life. So it just felt natural, and we knew that we had to do it in the second-to-last episode. We just knew that structurally that’s where it had to go.

Caleb shows up for the funeral with a new girlfriend and her daughter. At first, that was surprising, but upon reflection it makes perfect sense.
For us, he kind of goes back and forth between not wanting to be his dad and hoping he doesn’t turn out like his dad, and then being the guy who filled in for his dad. So wanting to save a single mother and her child was very Caleb, we thought, but it also had some David in it. So, for us, it’s about Caleb becoming his own man. He’s doing it for himself, but he’s kind of motivated by who he is, and he’s just kind of caught between his two parents.

Over the last two episodes, Romy has finally been given the freedom to make her own choices, including to live with David if Natalie dies. Is that exactly what she needed?
Yeah, I think it was. I don’t think she knew exactly how it would come. I mean, Romy was the one who brought David back, and she was the one who at that end of Episode 209 put her faith in him, [believing] he’s going to come back. And she wants a dad. For her to breakthrough with him on some level, she put her trust in him, and it seems to have paid off for her—at least for now. She’s trying to make herself seen, you know, ‘I’m here,’ and doing that in the way Romy does it.

Natalie is a great mother. Nobody would doubt that. But that it would take her this long, and for Romy to have to go through that much for Natalie just to suggest, ‘How about we send you to school for more artistic kids?’ There was probably a shorter route for Romy to get there, but she had to live through all that in her own way to get there. For us, it was just, is she going to go live with her dad right now? Is she going to leave? What’s she going to do? And I guess sometimes you get what you want, and it’s scary.

True. In the scene in the park with David, Romy looked a bit overwhelmed by her choices. Julia Scarlett Dan’s expression was perfect.
Right! She’s so expressive. I mean, God, that girl . . . In that scene, we wanted to end it on that look, but there were so many options because she’s so expressive in the moment and vulnerable. She’s just lovely.

Emma decided she was done with Miranda’s antics and quit her job, but I hope the storyline about her sexual identity won’t get dropped.
We felt that her affection for Miranda was real. So even though Miranda revealed herself as maybe not the greatest person in the world and Emma made a decision, we’d like to see where that goes, too.

It absolutely will not [get dropped] because we felt that we came to that with Emma in a way that’s really organic to who she is. And also Emma, she doesn’t have to take shit from people. She’s developing the confidence. We believe in what’s happening to her and very much want to see where it goes.

Matthew and Nicole discussed their future, and Nicole has a much more open-ended view of their relationship than Matthew expected, which I love. Why did you decide that felt right for her?
We, the writers, just loved that development as well. [Laughs.] We are super excited to hopefully get to explore it. She’s been going through this growth, and we only see sparsely what’s happening on her side of all that. You know, she got married young, she lived a fairly sheltered life, and she didn’t want to go back to square one. So it felt important for her not to just revert to a housewife—not that there’s anything wrong with being a housewife, there absolutely isn’t. But, for Nicole, she just wasn’t going to be happy going back to the way things were. She’s changed, and she still loves him, but she wants to know what’s out there. And she’s had experiences offscreen that she liked, so she wants to know what’s going to happen. And conversely for Matthew, he needs to control his existence in a big way, and this would be difficult for him, so that excites the writers.

Oliver agreed to work for Gerald at the garage to help pay back the loan for his studio. Was having him fully reconcile with his dad the goal of the season for him?
Yes. Because when he first comes back in Season 1, he comes back with tension with his parents, but we always felt it was more squarely with his dad. He had a hard time connecting with his dad, and we wanted to bring those two together in the absence of Janine.

I have to say that I really like Oliver and JD together.
With the JD thing, we liked the idea that—at his most vulnerable, with his mother just passed and with his own mental health—that [Oliver] has a strong connection with someone at the least likely time, and that the relationship starts on Level 20 instead of on Level 1. Oliver has had kind of a rough ride as far as his relationships have gone on the show, and we felt he deserved something . . . And with Shannon Kook, who plays JD, we took that seriously because we knew we wanted to explore it, so we had chemistry casting with the few actors we were looking at, and those two seemed to connect.

So much happened with Natalie this season, but at the end, she seemed to accept that she had to let it all go and live in the moment. Did you know that’s where you wanted her to end up when you began writing Season 2?
It was always present, because I think if you were in her position, starting from the very beginning of the series, you’d think, ‘OK, I’ve got to get things ready for the kids,’ but also, ‘I’m alive now, what do I do?’ So that idea is present, but I think to get there is not a linear path, and it’s a messy path where it may feel like you’re moving backwards all the time. We were trying to complicate things and complicate things and have her challenge her own life and her own happiness and all her own decisions and the way she saw herself, to have her get to this point where she just has to let go. She has no choice because she’s told, ‘You don’t have any options.’ And they’re not kidding when they say that to her.

 

Did you always envision the season ending with the fireworks? The Leonard Cohen song was a nice touch.
Yeah. We had the idea for a really long time. We had the idea for the Leonard Cohen song a long time ago as well. We didn’t do it because he passed away. The visuals are beatific and beautiful, and the song is ‘Bird On A Wire,’ so it’s a sad song. So I think she’s sitting there at peace and looking at the fireworks, and her kids are wherever they are, and the song is sad. Everything is going to be OK because it has to be. Because [she’s] alive now and then also there is the great unknown before her. It will be a different stage in Natalie’s story. Obviously, she is still going to worry about her kids and engage with her kids, but she has to get past worrying about the minutiae of it.

What are you most proud of regarding Season 2?
I’m really proud of the way it came together. I know that’s such a general answer, but it’s a very hard show to write and make. I think that on the level of the scripts, we took something and deepened it and made it more complex and dug into the characters in interesting ways. I’m really proud of the writers and all the work that got made and of the filmmaking overall. People were always happy with the scripts, but there’s a big difference between liking the scripts and then a show coming together. I feel like on every level our directors and our editors are so good, making these moments that are often very sparse in the script. They really are. And, obviously, the actors are amazing, and they are so expressive. But I’m just proud of the team and how much everybody is able to do with a limited budget. There’s always not enough time and not enough resources, but the show looks good and it feels good, and that’s thanks to the great team that we have on every level.

We hope that This Life is renewed for Season 3. What would you like to explore next season?
I think we want to dig into all the questions that we ask in the last episode. Is it endgame for Natalie? That’s a big question for us. Is it over, and what does that look like? And we wouldn’t shy away from any of the questions we ask in the last episode, like what would Matthew and Nicole having an open marriage look like? We’d like to dig into that and follow that. Romy says that she’s going to go live with her dad, so do we also go there? We do a lot of work to make sure everybody’s journeys are grounded and real and feel honest, and we don’t want to pull the rug out anywhere. That means sometimes that there aren’t huge twists on this show, but hopefully you believe it when you see it. I feel like all the questions we ask, we really want to answer them.

Images courtesy of CBC.

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This Life 210: Season 2 comes to an emotional conclusion in “Choose Life”

In last week’s penultimate episode of This Life, the Lawsons suffered twin traumas, as Janine suddenly passed away from a heart attack and Natalie was rushed into emergency surgery. In Sunday’s Season 2 finale, “Choose Life,” the family struggles to regain their footing as they gather for Janine’s funeral.

Here’s a sneak peek of what’s to come.

Natalie recovers from surgery
But learns her treatment options are now severely limited. Can she finally make peace with the unknown?

Oliver tries his hand at love and responsibility
With mixed results. Shannon Kook makes another welcome appearance as Oliver’s new love interest, JD.

Matthew and Nicole move forward
Which means not reverting back to the way things were.

Caleb, Emma and Romy follow their own paths
All three of Natalie’s kids end the season with a better sense of who they are and where they’re headed.

Listen for a Leonard Cohen tribute
Did you expect anything less from a show that so proudly showcases Montreal music?

No word yet on Season 3
But “Choose Life” serves as a lovely series finale if the show is not renewed. Savour another round of fine performances by the entire cast, but take a special moment to recognize the work of Torri Higginson, who has consistently brought subtlety and humour to an emotionally gruelling role. And then hope CBC does the right thing.

This Life airs Sundays at 9 p.m. on CBC.

Image courtesy of CBC.

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This Life’s Janet-Laine Green on her tough scenes in “Well Fought, My Love”

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen This Life Episode 209, “Well Fought, My Love.”

On Friday, Janet-Laine Green told us about her experience playing Janine Lawson on CBC’s This Life. In the second part of our interview, Green tells us about receiving the news her character was going to pass away in Episode 209, “Well Fought, My Love,” and what it was like to portraying her final scenes of the series.

Several of your cast mates told me they were shocked by the events in Episode 209. When were you told Janine was going to pass away?
Janet-Laine Green: I think a couple of weeks before I went down to shoot, and it just tore me apart. It just broke my heart. Honestly. I think because of the reasons that I said before, that it’s such a special show. It’s rare in a series—and I’ve done a lot of series—that you actually have the sense of family and real joy to be on the set, and we just all connected so well, the young people and my kids on the cast, and shooting in Montreal was just a joy, so beautiful. So when I got the word, I went, ‘Why? Why would you do that?’ And I couldn’t take myself out of the character. And it really is, that series, like any series, it’s all about storylines, story plots, what’s going to shock the family, shock the audience. And because it is a family, when something like that unexpected happens, that’s a great storyline. But I totally took it personally. I really went, ‘Oh, it doesn’t really matter if Janine’s in the show.’ Now I know that’s not true and having some time away from it, I went, ‘I can see why they would do it.’ But it really makes me very sad not to be in the show. Really sad. Because we like each other so much. I think that, more than anything, it was a really special combination of people.

It was definitely a shock.
It is shocking. You’re not set up for it at all. And that’s I guess what I mean by living your life to the fullest is, one doesn’t know when you’re going to die. And when there’s illness, it gives you such a different perspective on life and death. When one has been ill, you’ve been dealing with life and death quite a bit. And you’re looking at, ‘Have I done everything I wanted to do?’ and ‘What do I want to do?’ But when something like that happens that quickly, there is no looking back, there is no preparing, it’s everybody else who has to deal with the fallout.

I haven’t seen the episode, but I was there with Natalie, and I was there with Gerald, but I didn’t see how anybody else reacted. And that doesn’t matter really, it’s just being on the other side. Playing dead was awful. It was awful. Because you want to say goodbye. You want to say goodbye to your kids. You want to say goodbye to your husband. You want them to say goodbye to you. But there is no goodbye. And I think that’s even more shocking than if you have some time if you’ve been ill.

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What was it like to play a body in the episode?
It’s very hard, because, for one, Peter as Gerald is trying to resuscitate me. So they had built this contraption, and they had paramedics there—real paramedics—and he had to pound on my chest to try to get me back. And they had built sort of a metal contraption to sort of protect my body from the real strong pressure that you have to give. And I went, ‘No, I’m just going to do it, and I’m not going to wear the contraption. Just, Peter, do what you need to do.’ But the hardest thing is holding your breath and not showing your breath. That’s really hard. You have to hold your breath for quite a long time. Because the camera sees it.

And then people are really sad around you. You can’t go, ‘It’s OK, it’s OK.’ And after I had finished playing dead, the director said, ‘Oh, I much prefer you being alive. You’re a much better actress when you’re alive!’ [Laughs.] But that was Louis [Choquette] again. Louis shot my last episode, so it was really nice to start with him and finish with him.

Do you have a favourite scene of the season or the series as a whole?
I loved the scene in 209 where Peter and I are just kibitzing in the kitchen and making tea and just being sort of silly, and he had to go to work and I wanted to go for a walk. It was so natural and everyday, and yet a couple who had worked through their marriage and were just having a cup of tea and were happy to have time for each other. That was actually a really beautiful scene. Even if I didn’t die, it had such a nice quality to it, and then she walks out into the sunshine.

Is there anything else you’d like to say about your time on This Life?
Thank you. Thank you to CBC for greenlighting this production, and thank you to the wonderful cast. I adored working in Montreal and all the people that made me feel so welcome and comfortable. It has just been a treasure in my career, doing this show.

And what’s next for you? 
We’re going to Mexico for a month in about a week, and then I’m coming back and doing a play called Peace River Country at the Tarragon (Feb. 7 – March 19, 2017), which is a brand new play about fracking in Alberta.

This Life airs Sundays at 9 p.m. on CBC.

Images courtesy of CBC.

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