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Interview: David Chilton on life as a Dragon and his adorably appalling appliances

DragonsDen_david_chilton-gallery-thumb-638xauto-242674The season finale of Dragons’ Den aired last night — if you missed it, catch it tonight on CBC as well. TV, eh?’s Martha Marcin chatted with David Chilton, celebrated author of The Wealthy Barber and one of the Dragons.

Martha Marcin: You are the newest Dragon, with two seasons under your belt. What’s it like to be a Dragon, and how has your life changed, if at all? 

David Chilton: It’s changed fairly dramatically on three weird fronts. Number one: As the “Wealthy Barber” everywhere I have gone in my life people have recognized me and asked me one question: should I pay off my mortgage or max my RRSP? And now everywhere I go people say, “Can I ask you one question? Is Kevin really like that in real life?” I get that question 30, 40 to 50 times a day, and often it’s not phrased that politely. The second is that you get pitched non-stop; there was one week where I got between 300-400 pitches. The final thing is that you get your picture taken constantly, so I always have to have a nice shirt on now. In the old days I just wore whatever (laugh).

In the final episode of the season we are given a backstage pass to the life, the loves, the drama that is David Chilton… 

I don’t have a lot of drama!

Sorry, let me rephrase. We get to see you in day to day life, how you run your businesses, and your amazing golfing prowess…

Oh yeah, I think I hit like one good shot on that trip and they happened to catch it on camera. It was a very big coincidence.

I’m sure you’re just being modest. 

Honestly I was shocked when I hit a good shot on camera because I was very nervous. But it worked out well.

But seriously, what are the new and shocking secrets are your fans going to learn about you after seeing you at home and away from “the Den?” 

In my case not a whole lot — people know that I live a very modest life. I live in a very small house, and that might catch some people off guard because they think of Dragons being ultra wealthy and living in gigantic mansions. I’m a huge home body. When I’m not on the road travelling for speaking or for business I almost never leave my house. I think people will be happy to learn that I’m very much the same guy I’ve always been. I hang around with the same friends from high school, I see my parents 4-5 days a week when I’m home. My life is fairly normal.

We did see your home, and yes it is very modest. But I have to say, I was appalled by your kitchen. 

A lot of people are (laugh).

David, you have a half size stove and laminate counter tops. I’m all for frugality, but really? 

Ok, I’ve got to tell you a story, and I don’t ever tell this story, but it is so funny and embarrassing. I lived in my house for months and I had two people over. And one of the wives said, “Oh isn’t this the cutest little dishwasher.” And, I’m telling you the truth, I didn’t even know I had it.

OMG!

I know! It was to the left of the garbage — I never even noticed it. I know, my kitchen is very, very humble. I don’t do any cooking at all. I know, I’m horrible in the kitchen.

It is a modest kitchen, but that stove is appalling.

Well appall is a little strong! It’s like an Easy Bake Oven. It shouldn’t appall you, it should take you back to your youth. You need to use your words more diplomatically. Maybe you can mix your language up and say, “I was appalled by his adorable appliances.”

Ok, the stove is cute and adorable. In fact the whole thing felt a bit like an episode of MTV’s Cribs — all that was missing was the bedroom tour and you turning to the camera and saying “This is where the magic happens.”

You know why? Because everybody would know it was a lie, so there is no point there.

On the final episode they showed a clip of Mary McQueen of Hand and Beak,  a rather eccentric woman who created unique cards with strips of paper her lovebird Luigi shredded for her. It might have been the editing, but some of your cohosts seemed to think the lady was a bit of a joke (COUGH Kevin O’Leary COUGH), yet you took her on and successfully launched her with Hallmark. What did you see that they didn’t?

She had such a quick wit and I will never forget how she was talking about the back-up bird Binky as an apprentice to Luigi. And she looked at Kevin and said, “Oh, I should let you know Kevin, that they are not unionized.” And I loved that, it caught my attention. But the biggest thing was the quality of the cards. I actually don’t like the greeting card business for entrepreneurs, it’s just so tough on the distribution side. But I loved her cards; she had such a great eye. The fact that Arlene loved the cards impressed me because she’s got good instincts in that area. But all that being said, to be honest, I was not confident that it was going to work out as it has.

You won’t believe this but Luigi was hired as the spokesperson for shredding company. He is now on the side of a truck. Mary is very sharp — the more I get to know her the more I am impressed by her.

Do you feel that your criteria is different from the other Dragons in how you choose someone to invest in? Or is it a matter of taste?

You know it’s funny, I think one of the reasons Dragons’ Den works is that there is no checklist because every pitch is so different. I do want someone who has a good attention to detail. I think that is the common denominator in those that I ended up partnering with. One thing I did last year was gravitate towards dog deals. Holy smoke, I’m a sucker for a dog. In fact as soon as a dog came down the stairs all the Dragons would look at me a say, “Oh here goes Dave.”

I also look for an opportunity to take advantage of our contacts. It hit me last year in Dragons’ Den that I didn’t realize how many people I knew. I’m so old now that throughout 30 years on the road speaking to people, you make a lot of contacts.

To be able to share those contacts with those people working on their dream must be very satisfying for you. 

Honestly it sounds corny, but that really is one of the most delightful parts of this. You get a good product and they can’t get it in front of the right people. And that’s the thing you can do, you can open those doors.

It’s been almost 25 years since The Wealthy Barber was first published, you’ve had 2 seasons on Dragons’ Den, what’s next for you?

You know in my whole career I’ve never really had a 5 year plan or anything. I never really know where I’m going myself and I kind of like it that way. I don’t know what I want to do next. I know I’ll never retire. But I love what I do and I enjoy my work.

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Sunday: Lost Girl, Dragons’ Den, Republic of Doyle, Borgias

LostGirlLost Girl, Showcase – “Those Who Wander” season finale
Bo attempts an unlikely rescue against an army to save two people who are dear to her – unaware of the dangers facing those she leaves behind. Kenzi has an epiphany about Hale; meanwhile Dyson is given an important clue to Bo’s past, just as doubt is cast on his own future.

Dragons’ Den, CBC – “Year of the Dragons” season finale
See what life is like as a Dragon on and off screen as camera crews follow them to uncover how they juggle their massive business empires, jam-packed schedules and coveted personal lives. From book launches and red carpets, to backing start-ups and demanding speaking tours, Year of the Dragons documents the Dragons’ hectic lives, along with their increasingly rare and precious down-time. In this revealing season finale, viewers will discover the secrets of the Dragons’ success, and hear of some mistakes they made in the pursuit of power.

Republic of Doyle, CBC – “The Devil Inside”
When a crazed bomber takes over the police station, it’s up to Jake to try and diffuse the situation from the inside before the hostage crisis can turn fatal; Trapped outside, Leslie leads the RNC command post with Jake’s life hanging in the balance. Guest stars: Luis Guzman, Cristina Rosato.

The Borgias, Bravo – “The Face of Death” season premiere
As Pope Alexander (Jeremy Irons) fights for his life after being poisoned, the Cardinals jockey for position to take over the Papacy. Cesare (François Arnaud) and Micheletto (Sean Harris) trace the assassination plot back to its source, but Della Rovere (Colm Feore) is ready to make his move – and his is not the only conspiracy.

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Safe is the Word for CBC

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If you were excited by this season’s lineup of shows on CBC, you’re bound to like next season. Safe is the word for our public broadcaster. All primetime scripted programs have been renewed, and no new ongoing series have been picked up. Further details will be provided at the upfront in May, so I’d still have hope that a new series or two is up their sleeve if I thought CBC could afford even the sleeve in this second year of imposed austerity.

Promising but short-lived additions are a television movie based on Lawrence Hill’s The Book of Negroes – which, among other accolades, won CBC’s Canada Reads competition a few years ago — and the Best Laid Plans miniseries based on Terry Fallis’ political satire, adapted for television by Susan Coyne and Jason Sherman. Coyne’s association with Slings & Arrows means I already have impossible expectations for that miniseries, as well as the no-basis-in-fact expectation that, like Bomb Girls, if the ratings are decent it could become a maxi-series.

My reality-hating heart has to admit excitement about Battle of the Blades’ return after a season’s hiatus. I didn’t watch it regularly but it’s entertaining and a unique format amid all the [American Reality Show Title] Canada series out there, and it could only be a more quintessentially Canadian idea if they made the skaters ride moose covered in maple syrup. I mean that as a compliment.

The no-brainers for renewal included the resurrected Murdoch Mysteries, which gained even more of an audience in its City to CBC transition, Republic of Doyle, Rick Mercer, Dragons’ Den and Marketplace.

22 Minutes should be a sure thing based on ratings, but never quite seems to be based on network neglect. Slightly more surprising is the renewal of the under-the-radar and lukewarmly rated The Ron James Show, which nonetheless must be cheap to produce and James has earned his place with the network (but it’s not as though that always means much).

There were three titles I scanned for in the renewal list to see which one or ones caught the axe. Mr. D and Arctic Air have declined drastically in the ratings after great starts the previous year, and Cracked, while not completely DOA, never came close to cracking a million. But they were all there. Everything was there except The Big Decision.

Another kind of person would praise CBC for giving shows with middling ratings more than a season or two to find an audience. That kind of person would have thought all of them were shows deserving of a greater audience in the first place, would refrain from pointing out a couple of them found and then lost an audience, and would not have written this post after the 2012/13 season announcement.

The fact that everything was renewed to me doesn’t indicate CBC’s faith in all these shows – seriously, all of them? – but that they had no faith in any of their shows in development.

In sticking with a stable lineup, CBC is coming closer to fulfilling its impossible mission of having to be all things to all people and, in the process, making its schedule look a lot like a private broadcaster’s should, if Canadian private broadcasters didn’t look a lot like American broadcasters. CBC is staying the course with a staid lineup, and fewer people will note the loss of innovation than would have noted the loss of even a mediocre scripted show.

By Diane Wild

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Sunday: Lost Girl, Dragons’ Den, Republic of Doyle, Heartland

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Lost Girl, Showcase – “Hail, Hale”
Chaos strikes during a daring attack on The Dal, leaving the fate of one of the gang in the balance. Meanwhile, The Morrigan leaps on the opportunity to ignite the tensions between Light and Dark… catching Kenzi and Hale in the crossfire.

Heartland, CBC – “Under Pressure” season finale
With the threat of losing Phoenix looming over their heads, things become even more complicated at Heartland when Georgie gets a surprise visit from her brother Jeff.

Dragons’ Den, CBC
A new step in the world of women’s footwear; eyeglass entrepreneurs hope the Dragons will flip for their product; and a bicycle innovation hopes to wheel out of the den with a deal. Plus, the dragons get revved up over a ride share business.

Republic of Doyle, CBC – “Gimme Shelter”
Mal and Rose try to keep an old friend safe and find out what kind of business he’s really into. Jake is laid up with a bad injury and his medication causes some strange dreams. Guests stars: Gordon Pinsent, Michelle Nolden, Rachel Wilson, Michael Hogan, Dylan Scott Smith, Amy Sloan.

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