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A.R. Wilson has been interviewing actors, writers and musicians for over 20 years. In addition to TV-Eh, her work has appeared in Curve, ROCKRGRL, and Sound On Sight. A native of Detroit, she grew up watching Mr. Dressup and The Friendly Giant on CBC, which led to a lifelong love of Canadian television. Her perpetual New Year's resolution is to become fluent in French.

Orphan Black 503: Alison longs for a normal life in “Beneath Her Heart”

M.K.’s tragic death on last week’s Orphan Black was tough on Clone Club, so this week’s extended visit to Bailey Downs may feel like a bit of a respite—if you consider Neolution putting the squeeze on the Hendrixes relaxing, that is.

Here is what Bell Media’s official synopsis says about “Beneath Her Heart,” written by Alex Levine and directed by David Wellington.

Alison seeks to return to normal but her community, Bailey Downs, has moved on from her. 

And here is our spoiler-free peek at the episode.

Welcome to the trip, man
Alison’s quest for normalcy takes her to the Fall Fun Fair, but old friendships, memories and vices come back to haunt her.

Lord of the Dance
If the thought of Donnie dancing in a kilt sends you into a fit of giggles, this episode is for you!

The Neos put Art in a jam
Enger’s search of the Hendrix home forces Art to make a hardcore decision.

Prepare to be charmed
Alison, Donnie and a lute. ‘Nuff said.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET on Space.

Image courtesy of Bell Media. 

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Orphan Black 502: Writer Jeremy Boxen breaks down “Clutch of Greed”

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen Orphan Black Episode 502, “Clutch of Greed.”

“I want to know why I’m like this.” —Kira

The Sarah Manning (Tatiana Maslany) we met back in Orphan Black‘s first season was a neglectful mother who disappeared for months at a time, leaving Kira (Skyler Wexler) in the care of Mrs. S (Maria Doyle Kennedy). However, the Sarah we see in Season 5 is completely changed: devoted, fiercely protective and determined to protect her daughter from Neolution at any cost. That’s why this week’s episode, “Clutch of Greed”—which sees Kira willingly choose to spend time in the care of Rachel (Maslany)—is such a kick in the gut. Sarah’s time of influence over Kira, already cut short by her previous selfishness, may now be over, handed over to the person she trusts the least.

And just as Kira turns to Rachel in hopes of learning more about herself, Cosima turns to Neolution founder P.T. Westmoreland (Stephen McHattie)—whom we finally lay eyes on—to understand more about the science behind her and her sisters. For a series Big Bad, who is also supposedly 170 years old, P.T. seems almost normal as he goes over Cosima’s latest test results (they’re excellent) and quotes an Arthur Conan Doyle poem. But while his chat with Cosima is disarmingly genteel, it appears in the same episode in which Ferdinand (James Frain) literally stomps the life out of M.K. (Maslany) in a fit of entitled male rage.

Rachel may claim it’s a “new day” for the clones, but this episode underscores that it’s just the same day, different week for Sarah et al., as they all continue to squirm beneath the heel of an oppressive patriarchy.

Joining us to discuss these issues, and break down all the major plot points in “Clutch of Greed,” is Orphan Black co-executive producer Jeremy Boxen, who wrote the episode.

You came over from another great show, Killjoys. How did you land on Orphan Black?
Jeremy Boxen: I have known Graeme Manson for a long time. We first worked together on a show called Endgame, which was shot in Vancouver. It starred Shawn Doyle as a Russian chess master with agoraphobia. So we’ve been friends since then, and this is the first time that our schedules lined up and I was able to get onto Orphan Black. I think we’ve both been trying to get me on it for a while, so this year, the stars lined up and I was able to jump on board, which is really exciting, because obviously it’s the last season, and we’re able to do some really satisfying things with it.

Is there extra pressure coming onto a show in its final season, especially one as beloved by fans as Orphan Black?
Yes, there are always different pressures with every season of television. With Orphan Black, there was pressure to get it right, but it was a thrilling kind of pressure because so much excellence had come before, and all we were trying to do was live up to that excellence and satisfy everyone who loved the show. So it was really a welcome challenge.

We finally meet the mysterious P.T. Westmoreland in this episode, and he looks like a normal Victorian gentleman. Was there much debate about what a 170-year-old prolongevity pioneer would look and act like? 
There was a lot of discussion about it, but Graeme came into the room with a clear vision already in mind of what he thought P.T. would actually be—which was a throwback who was clinging onto the vestiges of Victorian society where he’d come from. So there’s this air of theatricality about him, this air of Victorian science, and a certain charm that P.T. Westmoreland had to have to really be at the top of Neolution and pull the strings in the way that he does as a puppetmaster. And also the hunt for an actor who could sort of live in both worlds—that old Victorian science world but also exist in the present in a very grounded way. So I’m thrilled that we got Stephen McHattie to do it.

I loved Cosima’s conversation with him, including the story about the cheese and the cow. Where did that come from? 
The bulk of the conversation came from our group work, like most of the things on the show, but I was very pleased that I was able to work in the poem about the cow, which is a little Arthur Conan Doyle poem that I had found by chance, because my spouse was in a book club and the book they were reading at the time was a graphic novel about Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace teaming up to create a steam powered computer in Victorian times [“The Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage: The (Mostly) True Story of the First Computer” by Sydney Padua]. So it was a very steampunky, kinda funny, heavily researched novel, and as part of the research, in the foot notes, this poem was listed. So I was like, ‘You know what? There’s a confluence of Victorian science and imagination that’s perfect for someone like P.T. Westmoreland.’

Cosima made the decision to stay on the island and ‘follow the crazy science,’ like Delphine told her to. What is that going to mean for her?
Well, obviously his science is very intriguing, and it’s attractive, but from my point of view, I would say that Cosima is always interested in helping her sisters and the rest of the world. So there will always be that interesting tension between being able to do good in the world and being drawn into some science that is perhaps unpalatable and that’s sort of the brunt of the season, as she gets closer to P.T. Westmoreland and deeper into his science, the question is where will she find herself and what choices will she make at the end of it?

Rachel also recently met P.T. Westmoreland and seems very changed by the experience. What is going on with her?
You know, what can you say about Rachel? She keeps her cards close to her chest and the extent to which she has bought into P.T. Westmoreland’s vision and power versus the long game that she’s playing is something that only Rachel knows. I believe that will continue to play out through the rest of the season in surprising ways.

Ferdinand does not like Rachel’s new Zen-like vibe, and takes out his rage on M.K. Why was the decision made to kill poor M.K.?
Very early on in our discussions for the season, we came to the realization that M.K. would be dying for a number of story reasons and character reasons, and it made sense for that to happen at the hands of Ferdinand because of their ugly history together that was still left unfinished. So apart from the story reasons for that to happen, there’s a very personal, emotional reason for M.K. and Ferdinand to come together in that way and for Ferdinand—because of everything else that he’s going through—to act so horrifically. And the tragic result is something which will have some ripples throughout the next few episodes.

M.K.’s death was shockingly violent. 
Orphan Black is not a show that traffics in violence for violence sake. It all comes from character and scene. So the horrific violence we see on Ferdinand’s part is really an extension of the awful power structure in which the sisters find themselves, the patriarchy, and a lot of male control and a lot of male violence. So Ferdinand killing M.K. is a very concrete example of the kind of danger in which the sisters find themselves.

It certainly reminds viewers of just how dangerous Ferdinand is. 
It really does, and it gets to the reality behind all the fun we’re having, which is the patriarchal power struggle that exists really has the potential to result in horrible violence.

Kira makes the major decision to defy Sarah’s wishes and spend time with Rachel in hopes of learning why she is the way she is. How is Sarah going to handle that going forward? 
That’s one of the questions—what are we going to see from Sarah? Because this is really what we had fun doing this year, was charting Kira’s agency as she really comes into her own. She’s just growing up and taking control of her own life and asserting her own wants and needs. So that’s a new challenge for Sarah for sure, and we thought it was important as we’re dealing with various structures of power but also generational structures and how knowledge and wisdom is passed down from one generation to another, particularly in a matriarchal fashion. So one of the questions for the season is how does Sarah negotiate with all the women in her life, and in this case, her daughter, who is coming into her own?

It was so great to see Delphine and Mrs. S finally begin working together! Although, I thought Delphine was supposed to be in Sardinia. How did she get to Toronto? 
The thing to keep in mind with these two is they always have more cards up their sleeves then we think. Out of anybody, these are two characters who are really playing the long game, so it’s going to be very interesting to see what they’re cooking up, and when it comes to light for everybody else, how it fits in with the story at large. But like you say, it is pretty juicy to see them working together, and it’s going to pay off in some very interesting ways.

And in terms of the practicality of Delphine getting around—she’s magical, isn’t she? [Laughs.] She has the skills to appear where she needs to be, I would say.

What was your favourite scene of the episode? 
I really liked the one-shot clone switcheroo scene with Sarah and M.K. It was a thing of beauty to see them rehearse and see it come together, the way that Kathryn [Alexandre] and Tatiana acted together in the scene and rehearsed it and really blocked it out.

I was able to be there for it; we workshopped it to make sure all the dialogue fit in the right place and all the emotional beats landed. And on a technical level, it was very difficult to pull off, and for me coming onto Orphan Black for the first time, it was really fascinating for me to watch how technically that everybody put it together, from the crew running around and shooting the scene with the Technodolly to how things were stitched together in post-production with the CG and making it all very seamless so that the drama really popped and nothing else got in the way of that.

What can you tease about the rest of the season?
I’m really looking forward to the fans being able to live with the characters in the moments that we get to spend time with them in ways we haven’t seen before, either through flashbacks or interesting scenarios. This season really is a season that allows us to spend time with the characters in a very intimate way and everybody gets their big emotional moments. So I think fans are going to be pretty satisfied by the end of it, no matter who their favourite characters are.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET on Space.

Images courtesy of Bell Media.

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Orphan Black 502: Sarah defies Rachel in “Clutch of Greed”

While Orphan Black‘s Season 5 premiere ended with a supposedly kinder, gentler Rachel claiming it was a “new day” for the Leda clones, Episode 502 deals with the rippling effect her latest power play has on Sarah and the rest of her sisters.

Here is our spoiler-free peek at “Clutch of Greed,” written by Jeremy Boxen and directed by John Fawcett.

Mother/daughter tensions
Not buying Rachel’s new “velvet glove” promises, Sarah refuses to bend to the Neolution leader’s demands. However, Sarah’s decision provokes pushback from Kira, who is starting to assert her own autonomy.

Ferdinand’s not happy with Rachel’s post-P.T. attitude
No, seriously. He’s not. Always great to see James Frain, though.

Follow the crazy science
At the Revival camp, Cosima earns some face time with the mysterious P.T. Westmoreland. We won’t say much, other than Stephen McHattie is the perfect casting choice for the enigmatic founder of Neolution, and we hope Cosima and ole P.T. have more of these chats.

The return of a familiar face
Felix tracks down an old ally to help Sarah, and we were happy to see them pop up again.

A new level of clone magic
Be ready to feast your eyeballs on a clone scene that required jaw-dropping levels of technical wizardry to pull off. It’s not flashy. You may not even notice what’s happening at first—which makes it all the more impressive. Kudos to John Fawcett, Tatiana Maslany, Kathryn Alexandre and all the crew involved. Holy wow.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET on Space.

Image courtesy of Bell Media.

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Orphan Black 501: The clones face the beginning of the end

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen Orphan Black Episode 501, “The Few Who Dare.”

“Whatever this place is, it’s the answer.” —Cosima

Welcome to the final trip!

After four seasons spent tumbling down the rabbit hole in an attempt to uncover the conspiracy behind the creation of Sarah Manning and her sister clones, Orphan Black‘s fifth (and last) season finally emerges in Wonderland—a Wonderland as conceived by H.G. Wells, that is.

The season premiere, “The Few Who Dare,” written by Graeme Manson and directed by John Fawcett, begins right where we left off last season, with Sarah (Tatiana Maslany, fresh from her first Emmy win) badly wounded and fighting for survival on Susan Duncan’s (Rosemary Dunsmore) mysterious private island. The island potentially holds the answers to 40 episodes of questions because it also houses P.T. Westmoreland, the 170-year-old founder of Neolution whose quest for prolongevity spawned the creation of the clones. However, his search for the fountain of youth isn’t necessarily going as planned—as evidenced by the “Island of Doctor Moreau”-esque creature that attacks Sarah in the episode’s opening scenes—and, as always, the clones can never trust the motivations of Machiavellian pro-clone Rachel (Maslany), who is in her most powerful position yet.

“There’s only one faction now.” —Mr. Frontenac

Over the past four seasons of Orphan Black, we’ve met a series of individual and organizational villains with disparate ideologies and goals. This tangled web has led to both some convoluted plots and a few story missteps—I’m looking at you, Castor clones—but Season 5 simplifies matters by focusing on the Big Bad behind the curtain, P.T. Westmoreland (Stephen McHattie). The Proletheans are long gone, but the island’s Revival camp—which has taken in Cosima—keeps that group’s cultish vibe alive by acting like a science-loving Peoples Temple. Cosima’s cheery new pal, Mud (Jenessa Grant), explains that the people in the camp are P.T. Westmoreland’s “children,” chosen from around the globe to “genetically improve the human race.” The group is completely self-sustaining, with their own power, food and educational system.

“This place is scary,” says Charlotte (Cynthia Galant), after leafing through a propaganda-laced children’s book.

Word, Charlotte. Word.

“Follow the crazy science.” —Delphine

Yet, for all Revival’s creepiness, Cosima can’t help but be intrigued. While Sarah just wants to get off the island and take her sister with her, Cosima wants to stay, simultaneously repulsed and enticed by the science. This is great news for viewers, as Cosima’s ethical sparring with Susan in Season 4 was a highlight, and any sitdowns with P.T. Westmoreland will undoubtedly crackle, especially given our resident geek monkey’s inability to hold back the sass.

As for Delphine (Evelyne Brochu), it was wonderful to see her have a few romantic moments, albeit rushed, with Cosima again. These two have been put through the wringer, and any tender moments between them have been more than earned by long-suffering Cophine fans. Hopefully, Delphine’s forced trip to Sardinia will be short-lived.

But, of course, Delphine’s temporary exit opened the door for the episode’s most shocking and uncomfortable moment—Rachel administering the cure to Cosima with a giant needle to the uterus. Yikes!

“It’s a new day, Sarah.” —Rachel

And what is up with Rachel? While her new right-hand man, Mr. Frontenac (Andrew Moodie), and Art’s (Kevin Hanchard) new Neolution partner, Detective Engers (Elyse Levesque), spent the episode trying to bring Felix (Jordan Gavaris), Mrs. S (Maria Doyle Kennedy), Alison (Maslany) and Helena (Maslany) to heel on Rachel’s behalf, the formerly bitter clone comes away from her “seclusion” with P.T. looking like she’s had a true religious experience. She not only helps Cosima, but she promises Sarah that “it’s a new day,” even as she has her darted and carried away. I must admit that Rachel has never been one of my favourite characters, and I was hoping she might finally meet her (very justified) end this season. However, her post-P.T. glow has me deeply curious. What do you have up your perfectly tailored sleeve, Rachel?

Side Notes

  • What the hell, Donnie (Kristian Bruun)? Alison gets captured and you casually tip-toe off into the woods like you’re bailing on a boring lunch date? Not cool, dude. Not cool.
  • Sorry, the stick to Helena’s belly doesn’t frighten me. That pregnancy has gone on far too long for it to end that way. However, her injury does provide more opportunity for Donnie/Helena to bond, and, most importantly, they have to leave the shelter of the woods for help.
  • In a parallel to the first time she received treatment for her illness (that time with Delphine at her side), a single tear fell from Cosima’s left eye as Rachel administered the cure. Kudos to Tatiana Maslany for remembering that detail.
  • Art has always been the steadiest ally for the clones, but how much will his loyalty bend now that the Neos have threatened his daughter?
  • Elyse Levesque is my favourite addition to the cast. Disarmingly deadpan delivery.
  • Great to see Hellwizard (Calwyn Shurgold) again, and looking forward to M.K.’s (apparently) imminent return.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET on Space.

Images courtesy of Bell Media.

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X Company 310: Mark Ellis and Stephanie Morgenstern on “Remembrance”

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen X Company Episode 310, “Remembrance.”

In X Company Episode 307, “The Hunt,” Franz Faber (Torben Liebrecht) and Aurora Luft (Évelyne Brochu) shared an anguished kiss in a scene the writers’ room referred to as The Monster Mirror, because Aurora—horrified and guilt-ridden over killing a Jewish servant—came face to face with Faber and saw her own sins reflected back at her.  In last night’s series intense and moving finale, “Remembrance,” Faber and Aurora once again stared each other down, but this time Aurora, now full of conviction and clarity, reflected Faber’s own words back at him and showed him who he really was—or who he still had time to become.

Stunned by his confrontation with Aurora, Faber chose to sacrifice himself to kill Voigt (Kevin Griffiths) and end Operation Marigold, and in that moment, he finally stood up to the system that pushed him to kill countless innocents, including his own son. It was the ending that series creators Mark Ellis and Stephanie Morgenstern, who wrote the final episode, felt made the most sense for their conflicted antagonist.

“It felt like [Faber] had to make a sacrifice,” says Ellis. “He’s always been about self-preservation. He’s always been about protecting his wife and himself above all else. We’ve seen him commit unspeakable acts in the name of self-preservation, and we wanted to see him finally put himself on the line, to truly cross over to the side of good.”

While Faber’s end was tragic, the finale allowed the remaining X Company characters satisfying, hopeful conclusions, with Aurora continuing to work as a spy, Neil (Warren Brown) reunited with his niece, Alfred (Jack Laskey) and Krystina (Lara Jean Chorostecki) training agents at Camp X and—in a wonderful surprise—Sabine (Livia Matthes) joining the Polish Resistance.

In our last X Company postmortem interview, Ellis and Morgenstern join us to discuss Faber and Aurora’s stunning showdown and break down the rest of the emotional series finale.

I think the finale is about as close to perfect as you could get it. Is it everything you hoped it would be?
Stephanie Morgenstern: I think it was. There aren’t any moments where I think, ‘Ah, if we could have just gone back and adjusted that or fixed that or written that differently.’ I don’t think I’d be brazen enough to say it’s a piece of artistic perfection, but I would say I can’t think of what I would change if we had the chance or more time. I’m happy with it.

Mark Ellis: I’m missing the faces that were so familiar along the way. Like I would have loved to see Tom or Harry or Sinclair go on. I would have loved to have been able to construct what the future was for them in that final montage in the same way that we did for the other characters. But you can’t have your cake and eat it. I feel really proud of it. I felt like this was a really great collaboration on all levels, from the creation and the writing of it with our writing team through to our crew, who really poured their souls into it, not only in making these two episodes but also in supporting Stephanie, who directed it, and through to post production.

Was Faber’s death always planned, or did that conclusion develop slowly over time?
ME: I don’t think we knew it in the first season, but I think we definitely knew it going into the last season. We were at a crossroads, and you can sort of resolve his storyline and have one of the ultimate Gestapo Nazis converted to the side of humanity and morality and to the Allied cause, or you can continue to play him as a nemesis. And we were more interested in what it would take to turn someone in his position. It felt like he had to make a sacrifice. He’s always been about self-preservation. He’s always been about protecting his wife and himself above all else. We’ve seen him commit unspeakable acts in the name of self-preservation, and we wanted to see him finally put himself on the line, to truly cross over to the side of good.

I think if the series had continued after that character’s resolution, we would have had to really reinvent the wheel in some way. Maybe we would have had to fast forward in the war and have troops on the ground already. We would have had to invent a new adversary, and it somehow felt a little dishonest to do that. Most people who went through the war have a story, you know? ‘Here’s my war story.’ And these characters have already gone through so many stories in these three seasons that to continue to lump and add them on felt a little too ‘TV,’ and I felt it didn’t do service to what some of those spies actually did go through.

SM: Yes, I think it would have been difficult to surpass the sense of everything coming to a head, the showdown between Aurora and Faber. It would have been hard to sort of top that, considering that he’s been on a collision course with them and with the team for a long time and constantly negotiating his position within his home and between them and between him and Sinclair. To have continued the story beyond that act of sacrifice, it just wouldn’t have made much sense.

ME: I felt like this season was very satisfying for us to write, and it was all constructed on character and what’s going to happen to these people. And I think that if we went for another season, then we would have had to construct based on plot. I don’t think it would have been as good.

Tell me about writing the showdown between Faber and Aurora. It was so powerful. 
ME: It’s interesting because Stephanie and I both wrote that scene. We both took different passes at it, and Stephanie felt that it was very important for Aurora to evoke Faber’s speech that he gives at the celebration in Episode 302 of this season.

SM: ‘I know now what my true duty is, and it’s to do the right thing no matter what the cost because of those we have lost that are looking down upon us now.’ And he’s thinking of Ulli, of course.

ME: And then my contribution to it was that I wanted her to recall his words at the end of Season 2, where he talks about the agony of knowing his son can feel only one thing at a time. So she invokes both of those moments from Faber’s backstory very masterfully and skillfully and in a way that I think truly reflects the journey she’s gone through herself.

SM: It’s interesting because they complement each other in many ways, and what we did not want to do was to have Aurora come up with an impassioned patriotic and humanitarian speech entirely of her own, like getting the last word in. In a way, the strongest thing she could have done would have been to hold a mirror up to him and say, ‘These are your words. Do you stand by these words you have spoken? In the name of everyone who has died to bring us where we are right now, can you do something that makes us proud?’

I thought that Évelyne Brochu and Torben Liebrecht knocked it out of the park. 
ME: These two actors have continually transcended what we write on the page, and they continually surprise me. I wasn’t in Budapest when Steph shot that scene, so the first time that I watched it was when it was a little bit patched together. The moment that [Aurora] puts the gun to her chest was a moment that we really thought about a lot while writing it, and even though it’s Évelyne Brochu, I didn’t think she could bring that level of intensity and truth that just knocks your socks off. I was like, ‘Holy shit, this is a woman ready to die.’ I truly believed her. It was extraordinary.

The explosion sequence—with Aurora in a yellow dress as the bomb blows out an upstairs window—was reminiscent of the explosion in the series pilot. Please tell me that was on purpose!
SM: Exactly! Well, [Andrea Flesch] had the perfect golden yellow dress. That was partly chance, but she knew that yellow was Aurora’s special colour. But, yes, that scene was deliberately engineered to echo the first explosion that she dealt with in the field and to kind of bring back the sense of how far the team has come since then, how much has been learned and how much has been lost.

ME: We also tried to echo the scene with Tom and Neil in the pilot episode, when Tom is sweating over having to strangle a Nazi, and we wanted to echo that with Alfred and Neil and show how far Alfred has come and how seamless that task is for him now.

I thought the interrogation scenes with Neil and Edsel were fascinating. What were your goals when writing that interaction? 
SM: It is, in a way, the culmination of Neil’s journey. He entered the series as a warrior, as a man of action, a man of rage, motivated by the darkest impulses against the enemy. As he has navigated through the seasons, he has discovered that the world is a lot more complex than that, and he’s been sometimes confused, sometimes lost, sometimes haunted, and by the end, when he is face to face with the enemy, his strongest weapon, as it turns out, is his mind and his persuasiveness and his ability to look into the eyes of a person and guess exactly what they need to hear in order to get what he needs from them. The most impressive fight that he waged was one without a weapon in his hand and his hands still in chains. He actually talked the enemy into letting him go free, and he made it persuasive at every stage of that by playing every card that he had.

And Warren Brown is such a brilliant actor, and so is Basil Eidenbenz, and it was great to see the two of them. I was a little worried at first. These are very long and very verbal scenes, and there’s not a whole lot for the camera to do and not a whole lot to distract with. It is really just about these two men and their words, and they carried it off so beautifully.

ME: One of my favourite lines in that scene is when Neil says to Edsel, ‘I mistook you for a spy, not a soldier,’ and I think that, in a way, Neil began the series mistaking himself for a soldier and not a spy.

Sabine joining the Polish Resistance really surprised me. What made you decide that was right for her?
SM: I think it grew on us slowly, the idea that this woman who is at first a pampered and sheltered creature who hasn’t really taken the trouble to learn the truth about what’s going on around her, to take her journey to its full opposite, which is a slow awakening and a slow coming of age, being able to fight back and take her own destiny in her own hands, being able to rebel against her father and rebel against her husband even. And she has come to a point of complete ethical clarity by the time she’s holding little Ania on her lap and she turns and looks at her husband and says, ‘Maybe you’re just thinking too small.’

In a way, she has the luxury of being a new convert to the cause, and you see everything very clearly and you know what you have to do and you know that you can’t behave because behaving perpetuates the evil. She hasn’t had to fight the way Faber has had, and he’s also become torn between different ethical forces more than she ever has, but she is still at that point of complete, lucid, pure certainty about ethics. And rather than disappear, she wanted to bring Ania back to the people that she belonged with and bring herself to the cause as well. And the writers’ room has always wanted to see her let her hair down . . . And I think the scene between Sabine and Aurora brings a really nice closure to the story of their friendship.

Stephanie, what was it like to direct the finale and guide these characters that you and Mark created so long ago on their final mission?
SM: It was like a pendulum between being petrified and being so happy and feeling like what I’ve been learning since I started wanting to be part of the film and television writing world was all coming to fruition at the same time. I felt ready. I felt it makes sense that I would be the one to escort this story to its close because I knew it more intimately than any guest director might have, no matter how experienced they might have been on other shows. This was ours, and these are characters that have been in our souls for about 15 years. So it was thrilling, but I do have to admit it was terrifying because the stakes were very, very high to not want to drop the ball and let anyone down who trusted me. It felt like everyone converged and gave me the gift of their faith, and it worked out. I’m very proud of it.

I felt a very special bond with the actors, partly because it was ending and we were all kind of saying goodbye to something that’s been so close to us for so long, but I feel like they really threw themselves in with complete trust and abandon and complete love. I felt that in every scene, so I’m grateful for that. I’m grateful that it felt like the years of working increasingly closely with them were paying off in what we were able to offer each other in the last two episodes.

Do you have any ideas about what becomes of Aurora, Alfred and Neil after the war?
ME: I always picture Alfred as an older man, and I see him as the antithesis of those brave soldiers who are reluctant to talk about what they’ve seen. I think that the reason that Alfred chooses to go and train rather than continue in the field is because he feels he might burst. The way he recalls memory is so much more profound and sharper and deep than anyone else’s, and I don’t think there’s much more that he could bear. But I think that withdrawing from it, he also carries a responsibility to retell those stories in as vivid detail as his memory describes to him in his own brain.

SM: I think that we felt that both Alfred and Aurora would end up in the place where they are most needed, and where Alfred is most needed is where his particular strength and his condition can be made most useful, which is in telling stories and witnessing what he has seen and sharing it with this small group of people, these training agents, who he is actually free to speak honestly to. Because once the war is over and they’re out as civilians, they’re not supposed to speak about that anymore. His function is as a vessel and a storyteller, and that’s where he serves it best. And Aurora, we had trouble imagining her retiring before the job was done. Before the confetti falls in the streets and people can embrace each other and greet a new time of peace, she would just keep on fighting.

ME: I always feel very torn about what Neil’s story is after he drops out of the plane, and his drop out of the airplane is very poetic, it’s non-specific. It sort of violates the timeline and geography in a way. So he may go on to train others, or he may spend his weeks with Mags and remembering why he’s fighting the war and then going back into the field. We purposely left it vague. But I think the far future for him sees him surviving the war and sees him fulfilling his promise to take care of his last remaining relatives.

And do Alfred and Aurora see each other again after that final jump from the plane?
ME: I think they see each other again.

SM: I think so, too. I think after the war, they run towards each other in slow motion, and they start their life. It would be hard to ever develop a romance or a lifelong partnership with someone you’re going to grow old with if they don’t know any of what you’ve been through, and they have so much that they don’t even have to talk about because they were there together.

What’s next for you now that X Company is over?
ME: We’re regathering ourselves and our ideas and taking our time with the next project.

Images courtesy of CBC.

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