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He Said/She Said: What do you think of Shomi?

Join Greg and Diane every Monday as we debate what’s on our minds. This week, what do you think of Shomi?

He Said:

Now that Shaw/Rogers has made Shomi (I refuse to spell it with the small “s” as the two cable companies hope people do) available to all Canadians with Internet access, we thought it would be a good time to revisit the streaming site and all that it offers. As a Rogers subscriber—and the cable bills to prove it—I’ve had Shomi’s beta for months.

Have I used it? Not really. I’ve checked out back episodes of The Twilight Zone and A Young Doctor’s Notebook and Other Stories but that’s it. I blame that on the fact I’ve had Netflix for a couple of years and it comes immediately to mind over Shomi. It’s just not top of mind, so I can’t honestly pass judgment on the service yet. I can tell you that people in my sphere of influence still talk about Netflix with no mention of this Rogers/Shaw partnership but maybe that will change as time goes on.

What I can say is that I’m happy Shomi (and, eventually, Bell Media’s CraveTV) is available to Canadians with the Internet. Just having another option is a step forward into the 21st century.

Likewise, along noteworthy American and international programs like Sons of Anarchy, Transparent, The Last Man on Earth, The Office, Mr. Robot, Peaky Blinders and Empire is a whack of Canadian content spanning CBC, Rogers and Shaw’s libraries. Sitcoms include Seed, Package Deal, Mr. D, and 22 Minutes while more serious fare like Cracked, Between, Lost Girl, Vikings, Haven, Remedy, Rookie Blue, Continuum, Murdoch Mysteries, Republic of Doyle, Heartland, Being Erica and Emily of New Moon butt up against Dragons’ Den. That’s a wide range of homegrown content available and a nice snapshot of the (mostly) quality stuff on the air in this country.

Licensing issues continue hamper the most recent seasons of these series being offered, but you can still get a nice head start on those first few seasons before chasing them down on conventional cable (or via illegal means). I’d love to see the rights to older Canadian series like King of Kensington, DaVinci’s Inquest, Traders, Bizarre, Ready or Not and North of 60 approved so they can be offered on Shomi too.

She Said:

I’m a newly minted Shaw internet customer after a recent move, not because I was eager to go with a company that included Shomi but because Shaw cable internet had worked better for me in the past than my recent Telus ADSL. But a nice bonus is a month’s free trial of the new-ish streaming service. And then they opened it up to all Canadians days later so it’s not really a bonus anymore, but whatever.

CraveTV offered media a trial back at launch, and I checked it out then, but until the service is available to all I can’t recommend it or not. I will say I’m looking forward to their January (supposedly) public launch, and curious what their price point will be — it’s hard to imagine they’ll stick with $4/month when it’s a standalone service, yet they will be the last entrants in the current Netflix/Shomi/Crave battle of the streaming services.

Back to Shomi … I may have gotten more use out of it in a couple of weeks than Greg has so far, because I’m test driving it to see if I want to pony up the $8.99/month it would add to my internet bill — increasing that now-$30 bill by … um, carry the 1 … a large percentage. Would I stick with both Shomi and Netflix? No. They both fill the same niche in my media-watching life, catching up on series I hadn’t seen in first run and watching back catalogue comfort films. I don’t need to see any specific show or movie on either service — I’ll pick the one that has the most I want to watch and the best user experience.

The first thing I noticed about Shomi is that I had seen a lot of the offerings already … on Netflix. There is some crossover, particularly with the CBC shows and some older movies. Shomi has some current-ish American shows I can’t watch anywhere else, though not the kind of international fare Netflix offers.

The second thing I noticed is that Shomi doesn’t work well without a set top box. I got frequent errors trying to use Chromecast until I figured out the trick of starting the video on my phone or laptop first and then casting. It makes for a clunky viewing experience. I also found the user interface somewhat non-intuitive — for some shows it was much easier to figure out how to play the trailer than the first episode, yet I always want to dive straight into watching.

Another odd thing is that the menu will say there are two seasons of, say, Transparent or Girlfriends’ Guide to Divorce, but when you click on the series it turns out “Season 0” is extras such as trailers and interviews. Yeah, that’s not a season. There is no such thing as a season zero. It feels like their engineers didn’t have the technical skills to master how to include those without having the app call it a season.

And what are we, cavemen? The app doesn’t do autoplay of the next episode, so unlike Netflix we can’t accidentally binge watch until we’re catatonic and get the “are you still watching?” message of shame. With Shomi we actually have to make a conscious choice to watch the next episode and let our better judgement interfere with our couch potato tendencies.

As is often the case when we talk about CanCon, I think Greg is the glass half full person and I’m the glass half empty, cracked, and I cut my lip person. I was surprised at the small number of Canadian series. CBC seems to lend out non-exclusive streaming rights to whoever wants them, so I can watch many of those shows on Netflix or on CBC’s own website or app. Given Shomi is a Shaw/Rogers partnership, I would have expected to see more Shaw/Rogers shows.

Going forward I expect we will. Networks in Canada don’t own the shows, the production companies do. And streaming rights would have to be negotiated separately if they weren’t originally part of the licensing deal, which they wouldn’t have been for older shows. But Shomi’s offerings highlight just how few original series Rogers and Shaw currently have.

So the crucial verdict: will I pay for Shomi? I can see myself periodically adding it for a month at a time and then cancelling once I’ve binged the shows I want to watch, just for the shows unavailable (legally) elsewhere.  I’ve already binged Catastrophe and checked out Transparent and Girlfriends’ Guide. I’d already watched Fresh of the Boat and sampled some of the other exclusives, and I intend to check out Mr. Robot, but so far I wouldn’t give up Netflix’s superior user experience and their originals and exclusives for what Shomi has to show me so far.

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Bid now: Some Assembly Required prize packages

There are three — count ’em, three — Some Assembly Required prize packages available in our charity auction, courtesy Thunderbird Films. Two contain a rare Some Assembly Required cast and crew t-shirt (one Ladies L, one Ladies XL), headphones with case, playing cards, and a small poster. The third package has a Ladies L t-shirt and playing cards.

All proceeds from the TV, eh? charity auction will go to Kids Help Phone — a free, anonymous and confidential phone and on-line professional counselling service for youth.

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Interview: Killjoys’ signs off with cliffhanger season ender

Wow, what a season finale. Rather than close out the Khlyen/Dutch storyline, Friday’s “Escape Velocity” ramped it up with this season’s big bad capturing D’Avin and whisking him away to Red 17 on that mysterious orb called Arkyn. Dutch vows to get him back, but will she? In our last exclusive chat with creator Michelle Lovretta, we asked about the past—and future—of our favourite characters.

Rob Stewart has been so good as Khlyen. It would be easy if he played it like an unfeeling killer, but he has real feelings for Dutch and wants to protect her.
Michelle Lovretta: There are many things that are wonderful about Rob, but one of them is how he humanizes Khlyen, plays those layers and adds a complexity to him. We didn’t want somebody that was moustache twirling. We certainly write in that direction sometimes, but you need to have an actor that is talented enough to play against that. Frankly, the main thing that we need from Khlyen that he allows us to have is a lead character in Dutch. If we gave Dutch a paper villain, a two-dimensional character and you didn’t see that protectiveness of Dutch peeking through, you would think less of her for thinking so much of him. Those two actors bring something special to that dynamic and I’m grateful to both of them.

Khlyen certainly has the upper hand now that he’s grabbed D’Avin. Did you always know the Khlyen/Dutch storyline would continue past the first season finale? Was it a conscious decision to leave it open like this?
It was, yeah. I’ve always known that there was a larger plan that Khlyen is an integral piece of. He’s always been somebody that we’d planned to build and keep around. That’s not to say that he’ll be around forever; I love the idea of not really knowing where these particular characters end at any point.

I’m mad at myself for not picking up on the “Red 17” scrawled on the walls of the mystery ship a few weeks back. Have you had Easter eggs hinting at the finale all season long?
Yeah, they have and what’s important to me is that their true nature is only hinted at. They have a broader meaning that, I hope in Season 2, we can dig into and find out what they really mean.

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D’Avin is in Arykn with Fancy, who is a fan favourite. How could you do that to Fancy?
That’s why we did it! I’ve always had confidence in that character and Sean [Baek] has kind of hit him out of the park. We knew there would be people wondering what happened to him and we held back until that last moment. Obviously, something important is happening to him and we’ll see where that leads.

Are these experiments that are being done? What can you reveal?
What can I tell you? Honestly, the most I can tell you is to say, ‘Stay tuned.’ Where we pick up will answer some of those questions in our returning episode.

It might not be bad stuff. I guess it all depends on whose bigger picture it is.
Yes. No matter what is happening in there, it truly is all in the eye of the beholder and we’re going to have some fun with it.

Dutch vows she’s going to find D’Avin and I’m betting she’ll be successful … eventually.
No, she fails! [Laughs.] That would be a really shitty thing to do, wouldn’t it? I suspect she will be spectacularly successful, but at a price.


I’ll just say that it will be awesome. Her journey will be bad-ass.


Meanwhile, Old Town is being levelled by bombers. If Season 2 does go ahead, do you view that as starting over with that area of The Quad?
We don’t want to drop the idea of Old Town as our home, but we do want to put it in greater jeopardy now that we have stakes involved. The intent with Old Town is that, yes The Company was in there with boots on the ground and we all hated them, but they also allowed systems and employment and food and what happens if you stop playing nice with The Company when they have you by the balls?

This first season was about putting these three characters of Dutch, D’Avin and Johnny together. What would be the overarching theme of Season 2?
I think that’s a work in progress. I certainly know where I want to go with that, including where it all ends. I know where Season 2 ends, I know where Season 3 takes us, but in terms of the larger theme and how that connects with Dutch, I think to explain it would got too far into explaining where we’re going to go. I’ll just say that it will be awesome. [Laughs.] Her journey will be bad-ass.

Will supporting characters like Pawter, Alvis and Pree get more screen time in Season 2?
The fun of Season 1, and the challenge, is we only have 10 episodes with which to say, ‘Here’s what a Killjoy is, here’s the political structure, let’s try to shape The Company from the RAC, let’s get into the backstory of Dutch and Johnny and D’Avin …’ that’s a shit-ton of stuff to do. What was fun is, in the process of telling those stories it behooves us to introduce these fabulous secondary characters and allow them to grow. Now that we’ve done that, we’re going to have fun giving them slightly more personal directions and I’m hopeful to bring in a few new ones as well.

What did you think of Season 1 of Killjoys? Comment below!

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Steven Sabados ends CBC’s Steven and Chris

There will be no more Steven and Chris without Chris Hyndman: Steven Sabados made the announcement Friday afternoon on Facebook.

“I wanted to write and send a sincere thank you to everyone who has reached out and offered love, support, and words of encouragement over these past few weeks. 

As you can imagine, this has been an incredibly difficult time and I truly appreciate the compassion you’ve so generously offered.

Some of the best times in my life have been at the CBC — creating an incredible show with Christopher by my side and a fantastic team behind the scenes. That being said, it’s impossible for me to even imagine continuing the show without him. The CBC understands and supports my decision 100 per cent and I hope you can as well. 

To all of you who shared our fabulous journey over the last eight years, as Christopher would say, “Thank you, thank you, thank you.” 

Love, 
Steven”

The announcement comes weeks after the death of his on-air and real-life partner Hyndman was found without vital signs in an alleyway near the couple’s Toronto condominium. It’s believed he stepped off the terrace surrounding their condo while sleepwalking.

A native of Newfoundland, Hyndman teamed with Steven Sabados over 15 years ago to form The Sabados Group Inc.; the group specializes in event planning, product launches and set design.

On Steven and Chris, the couple—along with expert guests—offered a unique take on decor, beauty, health care, relationships, food and parenting. CBC’s media site notes Steven and Chris airs in more than 40 million households in the United States. Sabados and Hyndman starred in HGTV’s Designer Guys, Design Rivals and So Chic with Steven and Chris.

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Comments and queries for the week of August 21

What channels will be casualties of à la carte?

If a show has enough buzz and Netflix doesn’t get to it first, some Canadian telecom will probably grab it. I think CraveTV has a bunch of British shows like The Fall already. “Edgy” stuff like Black Mirror will remain on a premium channel and/or HBO Canada.

My dad will be disappointed in Bite going because of the Trailer Park Boys reruns. I myself only know it because it airs a slightly different cut of Whose Line Is It Anyway? episodes than the regular CW version.

HBO, AMC, the main U.S. networks, CTV, CBC and major kids channels like YTV will be fine. Toss-ups to me are things like Space. Sci-fi is already a limited audience and those fans are generally less likely to rely on traditional TV anyway. It’s only mainstream hit in Orphan Black is apparently supposed to wrap in 2017 anyway so it might not last too long without it. And even if it did close before then, CTV would probably just take it for Season 5, they already air reruns and Saturdays at 9 p.m. aren’t exactly busy to begin with. —Dan Amazing

Teletoon Retro is going? That’s disappointing. That channel is in a list of 23 channels our household awould keep along with CTV, CBC, TSN, City, Global, YTV, Treehouse, Space, Disney Junior, MTV, CW, CBC Newsworld, Sportsnet, Wild TV, Discovery Channel, History Channel, Teletoon, APTN, Movie Central, Food Network, Showcase and Family Channel. I actually know a lot of people who like that Teletoon Retro, both adults and kids. My kids are quite taken with Jem and the Holograms, Care Bears and The Smurfs. —Ally

Eighty per cent of the channels could go and I wouldn’t miss them. One thing I am worried about is losing some of the better U.S. series from places like Starz, TNT, USA, etc., and also some British series that are currently being picked up by channels like Showtime, Bravo, A&E and Super Channel. These are shows we don’t have access to otherwise. If some smart channel concentrated on stuff like that, and actually did some marketing, they could probably make a go of it. —Dan


Is The Amazing Race Canada too difficult?

Last week wasn’t the big penalty episode, it was two weeks ago with the Face Off: Sami & Ope/Neil & Kristen not counting the penalty Nic & Sabrina had to take because it was unsafe to do the horse Detour after dark when they were U-Turned. Counting the two at the Face Off, the soccer one, and tonight, we have five official penalties across four teams so far.

At this point I have to wonder if some of the tasks are too hard. Kristin wasn’t wrong in saying you can use a penalty as strategy. Dujean & Leilani got third place with or without the penalty after all. I love how Jon was clearly about to fall over laughing at the Gagging & Wipeout Brothers.

On the one hand, I respect Sami & Ope for doing the math alone, on the other it seems rather stubborn and reckless. Luckily, they didn’t take another penalty this Leg or they would be out. Strategically, they gained nothing except maybe bragging rights at home now. I think it was just pride. They need to pick it up if they want to last longer.

I enjoyed the reunion. Ribbing Hamilton about the passport and Sabrina always struggling was funny. I also loved how everyone else froze when Dana casually let it drop they were still in the Top 3 of the fan poll. I guess that province is really happy they finally got a team on the show. And irony with Neil ribbing Nic for the soccer penalty. —Dan Amazing

 

Got a comment or question about Canadian TV? greg@tv-eh.com or @tv_eh.

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