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Orphan Black 505: Writer Jenn Engels on Cosima and Cophine

Spoiler warning: Do not read this article until you have seen Orphan Black Episode 505, “Ease for Idle Millionaires.”

“This is what he does, he divides women.” —Cosima

In the same Orphan Black episode in which P.T. Westmorland’s (Stephen McHattie) evil plan for Kira (Skyler Wexler) was finally revealed (he wants her eggs!), so was his overall M.O. for success: The Neolution founder thrives on dividing women. This tactic was on full display at ‘ole P.T.’s twisted family dinner, as he happily watched Cosima (Tatiana Maslany), Rachel (Maslany) and Susan (Rosemary Dunsmore) jockey for position at his table and tried to pick the scabs of Cosima and Delphine’s (Évelyne Brochu) long-standing trust issues. If this was Season 3, we’d be in for yet another round of clone mistrust and Cophine heartbreak, but this is Season 5, and our beloved characters have learned their lessons and aren’t falling for the same old tricks anymore. So instead, we saw Cosima and Delphine defy P.T. and come to an understanding on their relationship, Sarah and Kira bond and swap skills in preparation for a showdown with Rachel, and Mrs. S (Maria Doyle Kennedy) and Delphine continue their clandestine alliance to protect the clones. With all these women finally working together, you just know that P.T. Westmorland isn’t long for this world–despite the fact that Cosima is now locked in his basement!

We caught up with “Ease for Idle Millionaires“ writer Jenn Engels to learn more about Kira’s special abilities, Cophine’s relationship-saving compromise and how Cosima is going to escape that basement.  

We finally found out the key to Kira’s special abilities: Lin28A. Has this revelation always been part of Graeme Manson and John Fawcett’s evil conspiracy plan, or is it something the writers came up with this season?
Jenn Engels: As far as I can remember, I think there was definitely a desire to make use of Kira’s amazing healing abilities, but it was certainly not worked out in Season 1 that in Season 5 we were going to come back, and it was going to be this . . . I believe [science consultant] Cosima Herter had put this nugget of an idea about this gene related to healing, so that came up very early in the season. So many of these ideas are put in motion by Cosima Herter as like, ‘Let’s look at this, let’s remember that,’ and with this wonderful sort of constant, gentle reminder of, ‘OK, guys, it’s never one thing,’ which is a line I’m really glad lived and stayed in that final confrontation between Cosima and P.T. : ‘You know it’s never one gene, it’s never one thing.’ Then I remember having a eureka moment of learning about Wilms’ tumour when we learned that it’s just a gene that doesn’t turn off, doesn’t stop reproducing and becomes a cancerous tumour. And when we learned that, we thought that was really interesting, and we could put that into the science that’s happening on the island.

This episode really brings Cosima’s series-long struggle to maintain her humanity both as a scientist and a science experiment full circle. What were the major themes you wanted to hit when writing it?
From a story point of view, we really had to move the science piece forward and the conspiracy piece forward, so that was the main effort of the puzzle work for the longest time. And when we finally nailed that, it was like, ‘OK, now let’s figure out the story part of it.’ Because the early drafts of it were still pretty dry because we were working so hard to make those science and conspiracy pieces work that it was like, ‘OK now we can add the emotional piece and what is Cosima’s journey in this.’

And director Helen Shaver had a lot to do with that when she came in and started working with us on it. She really put it to me bluntly, like, ‘What is the most important thing to Cosima in this?’ And we came across the idea of humanity because we knew we wanted to tie it in with her discovery that she is a clone and that other devastation in the scene with Delphine where she learns she’s intellectual property. And so just working with that idea of, ‘I’m not who I think I am, everything that I thought about myself is a lie, I’m not even a real human, am I?’ So that behest of Delphine’s that ‘You have to fight this with everything you have and everything you know yourself to be, all these wonderful qualities, like your intellect and your passion and your sense of humour, those are you and nothing can take that away from you.’ This full circle of humanity. They can’t take this away from you, use those things to fight them and you will win. And then circling back to that when P.T. puts the gun in her hands and challenges her and tries to bring her down to his level, and for a moment she’s debating it, like ‘Am I going to put this guy out of his misery? No, this isn’t my thing to do. I’m not gonna do this. I’m not gonna lose my humanity and become P.T. in the process.’

As a Cophine fan, I was thrilled that you finally resolved the long-standing trust conflict between Cosima and Delphine once and for all.
When we came up with the idea of answering that teaser, of answering such a huge moment in their relationship, I was totally psyched and really daunted by the idea, knowing the level of expectations from the Cophinery of it all. It just felt like we’ve got to take the black hat off of Delphine for good, and this seemed to be the way to answer that. You can’t reverse too many times–she’s good, she’s bad, she’s good, she’s bad. So you just have to deal with the reality that she’s done some things that maybe that we’re not so great with, but she’s always had her reasons, she’s always been ambitious in ways that Cosima is not. But we just sort of felt like, ‘What if there is this middle ground where Delphine will always do things behind Cosima’s back because she thinks she knows better, and Cosima will always forge ahead and be impulsive, and can we just agree to disagree on this because we love each other so much and just accept it for what it is?’ And that seems like a really neat way through. So when we came upon that in the writers’ room, it was like, ‘Yeah, that’s our solution.’ Because we do want a happy ending for these guys, and we do want a feeling that they are going to make it.

I loved Cosima’s line about P.T. Westmorland dividing women. Where did that come from?
It sort of came from finding the backstory with Susan and Virginia Coady, that they were both involved. It just seemed so baked into the idea that all these women are being subjugated and held down, and this is the way he takes their power away from them. There would be strength in numbers, but he finds ways to divide them, and Neolution as a whole does that. It just felt like that’s totally a part of the whole universe. So it felt like the best way to fight this guy was not to let him win by falling for his tricks that would divide them.

Speaking of women working together, Delphine and Mrs. S are still working together to protect the clones. What else do these two have up their sleeves?
I can’t hint too much, but it was really great to have a reminder that there’s a lot of weird tension here. We’re glad to see that there’s an alliance that we hadn’t been expecting, and I think Maria [Doyle Kennedy] played it really beautifully, like ‘I’ve gotta do this, but this isn’t like she’s one of my daughters, one of my pets.’ There is a charged history between them.

Sarah is bonding with Kira by teaching her some of her old grifting tricks. Is that going to come into play with Rachel?
We now know what’s ahead for her, we know the plan. So we’re going to see more of her at Dyad, but this is a season in which she is really coming into her own power. So I really like the scene where Mrs. S comes back and is happy to see her girls good once more after being so divided at the end of Episode 502, but also a sense of, ‘Oh, you did that did ya? You want to be in on the family business?’ So, Kira’s going to use her smarts and her street smarts that she’s learning from Sarah, but I don’t want to tip too much.

Susan is a fascinating character. She seems the lesser of four evils when compared to P.T. Westmorland, Dr. Coady and Rachel, but I still don’t trust her.
She’s an amazing character, and Rosemary [Dunsmore] is a terrific actress who plays those levels really well. I love that scene with her and Rachel seeing each other for the first time since the stabbing. She’s obviously incredibly wary of [Rachel] and incredibly scared but also still thinking, until Rachel touches her, that she’s got, if not the upper hand, then some hand here. But what I love about this show is that no one is white or black, and she’s guilty of a lot of very questionable acts, and she’s incredibly ambitious and that’s blinded her to her inhumanity. So I think she is somewhat but not perfectly redeemed in this season.

What were your favourite scenes in the episode?
I really loved that scene between Susan and Rachel. I thought it looked beautiful. I thought [director of photography] Aaron Morton just lit that so beautifully, and Helen [Shaver] got great performances from those amazing actresses. And I loved the climax with Cosima and P.T. and the Creature. I literally got chills and cried while they were filming that. Tatiana is so raw and yet so wonderfully in control. It’s a knife edge of ‘I am totally open to what’s happening in the moment, but at the same time, I’ve got it completely under control so it works for the camera, and it works for the crew, and it works for my fellow actors.’ It’s really amazing to behold.

And I also loved Andrew Musselman’s performance [as the Creature]. We knew when we were writing this that it had the ability to go to a really bad place acting wise and writing wise, and we knew it was going to be tough casting it. And when I saw Andrew give his audition–which didn’t have any words in it, obviously–he played this stunted and terrified but very human creature so beautifully and with a lot of restraint. And he was such a nice guy, such a pleasant guy, such a funny guy. In the scene where Salvador got killed, he was doing these takes at one or two o’clock in the morning in minus 11 degrees without socks and a coat, and he was just giving it and going over and over again. Working with him was a real highlight of this episode.

When we last see Cosima, she’s caged in P.T. Westmorland’s basement. What can you tease about Episode 506?
Well, she’s gotta get outta there, or we’ve got a pretty static episode! [Laughs.] So, who’s going to help her with that? It doesn’t seem like she has a lot of options.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT on Space.

Images courtesy of Bell Media.

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Showrunners exit CBC legal drama Burden of Truth starring Kristin Kreuk

Not only has the CBC’s new legal drama gone through a name change, but the project’s showrunners—Noelle Carbone and Adriana Maggs—have departed the project.

“Noelle and Adriana, were both key to shaping the first season of Burden of Truth, but at this time they have left to pursue other projects,” confirmed a representative from eOne, one of the show’s production companies, on Friday afternoon. While it’s fairly common for a television project to swap out some key cast between being greenlit and production, it’s a little more rare for showrunners to leave. Production on the 10-episode project, starring Kristin Kreuk, is set to begin this summer in Manitoba with a winter 2018 debut. Carbone most recently served as writer and co-executive producer on CTV projects Saving Hope and Rookie Blue; Maggs was writer and consulting producer on Space’s Aftermath and Rookie Blue.

We’re awaiting news on who will assume showrunner duties on the series.

Formerly known as Burden of Proof, Burden of Truth stars Kreuk as lawyer Joanna Hanley, who returns to her hometown to take a case after being passed over as partner in the big-city firm she’s been working for. After clearing a drug company accused of causing a debilitating illness among high school girls, Joanna discovers the case has more to it than she first assumed.

Burden of Truth is produced by eOne, ICF Films and Eagle Vision. The series was created by Brad Simpson (Rookie Blue, King) and executive-produced by Ilana Frank (Saving Hope, Rookie Blue), Linda Pope (Saving Hope, Rookie Blue), Jocelyn Hamilton (Mary Kills People, Cardinal) and Kreuk (Smallville, Beauty and the Beast). Kyle Irving and Lisa Meeches (Taken, Ice Road Truckers) are co-executive producers.

Photo: Frank Ockenfels /The CW

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Viceland’s Funny How? dissects the art of standup comedy

I listen to a daily podcast from former radio show hosts Humble & Fred. The pair, in addition to discussing the latest news of the day and dissecting their lives, often have standup comedians in to promote their latest shows and talk a little shop. I’m always fascinated when a comedian drops by because, quite often, discussion turns to writing and the mechanics of standup. I love that kind of insight. What makes a person want to get up in front of a room of strangers and attempt to make them laugh?

That’s all covered in Viceland’s latest original series, Funny How? Debuting Monday and broadcast all week long at 11:30 p.m. ET on the channel, Funny How? trails Canadian Kliph Nesteroff, former comic and author of The Comedians: Drunks, Thieves, Scoundrels, and the History of American Comedy, as he discusses all things standup with the folks who do it every day.

The debut instalment, “The Art of the Bomb,” delves into exactly that … bombing on stage. Nesteroff shares his own experiences, rattling off numerous Toronto clubs where he crapped out, and chatting with folks like Dave Attell, Mike Birbiglia, Artie Lange and Chris Robinson, who recall their first time bombing with an audience. But what makes this episode, and Funny How? in general, so interesting is its analysis of standup comedy. What, exactly, does it mean to bomb on stage? Is it merely that your jokes don’t work, or does the audience play a part in it too? And how does failing on stage help in one’s evolution as a standup comic? As Attell says, failing on-stage doesn’t just happen in the beginning of your career; it can derail a veteran too.

Upcoming episodes cover breaking in, comedy classes, and niche comedy from the LGBTQ community to Christian comics. If you’re a visitor to comedy clubs, a fan of standup comedy or just marvel in the fact folks have the guts to do it as a hobby or career, give Funny How? a peek.

Funny How? airs Monday, July 10, to Friday, July 14, at 11:30 p.m. ET on Viceland.

Image courtesy of Rogers.

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Orphan Black 505: Cosima makes a disturbing discovery

Much like Episode 503 focused on Alison a couple of weeks ago, this week’s new instalment of Orphan Black spends extra time with Cosima, as she accompanies Delphine to a bizarre dinner at P.T. Westmorland’s mansion and digs into the science behind the Creature in the woods. Meanwhile, Sarah spends some quality time with Kira, which leads to a better understanding of Kira’s special abilities.

Here’s our spoiler-free peek at “Ease for Idle Millionaires,” written by Jenn Engels and directed by Helen Shaver.

Cophine angst
If you thought Delphine getting shot to protect Cosima and the rest of the Leda clones would forever end Cophine’s trust issues, you were sadly mistaken. However…

Cophine romance
…it’s Cophine. Of course they can’t keep their hands off each other.

P.T. throws a dinner party
And Westmorland family values are as twisted as you imagine.

Cosima folllows the science
And finds a disturbing connection between the Creature and Kira.

Orphan Black airs Saturdays at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT on Space.

Image courtesy of Bell Media.

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Comments and queries for the week of July 7

The Amazing Penalty Canada tradition continues! Aaron & Deb seemed fun, kinda a bummer they’re gone already (and such a big part of the preseason promos). YouTube guy’s face when he realized what a tightrope was = priceless. Giver Guys are annoying. Bert & Karen don’t seem like they’ll last but he was smart for using his arms. The other guy sliding on his butt was funny. —DanAmazing


Sensitive Skin is a fabulous show. Unique and funny and honest and sad. I can’t believe it’s been cancelled. There is so much crap on TV, and finally we had a quality series that I looked forward to watching and now it’s gone. They would rather turn out all of those cookie-cutter cop shows that are all the same, but I guess they make more money. That’s what it’s all about these days. I am so disappointed. —Betty


I’m very disappointed in the cancellation of Chopped Canada. It was one of my favourite shows on the Food Network. I’ve watched every episode, tried the options that many of the chefs had used. Why would you cancel such a great show? —Will


I agree with so many of the other commenters here [about You Gotta Eat Here!]. John Catucci is the most genuine and engaging host on Food Network. He’s a likeable and witty character who makes the best of every situation. I don’t mean to bring anybody down, but the hosts for Ginormous Foods and Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives are mundane. The concept of Ginormous Foods and the challenges is what entices me to watch but Josh Denny is the reason why I never finish an episode. Catucci is the ideal host and I really wish to continue seeing him on Food Network. —Trish

 

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