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Interview: Jennifer Robertson, No. 1 with a (Nutri)Bullet

Jennifer Robertson is quick to admit she was a bundle of nerves on her first day on Schitt’s Creek. It wasn’t the content. Robertson has made a living out of writing and performing comic material in projects like Comedy Inc. and Little Mosque on the Prairie. It was co-stars Eugene Levy and Catherine O’Hara who reduced her to a bundle of nerves.

But get through it she did, and Season 1 of CBC’s Tuesday night sitcom has been a breeze since. The Vancouver native plays Jocelyn Schitt, schoolteacher wife to town mayor Roland Schitt (Chris Elliott), who is forming a bond with Moira Rose (O’Hara). We spoke to Robertson about working with two comic legends, what she looks for in a role and why O’Hara wanted to buy her NutriBullet. Oh, and an odd nickname for her hometown.

Where am I speaking to you today from?
Jennifer Robertson: I’m in Vancouver. I’m visiting family, so I’m in ‘the ‘couv.’

Wait, what? Is that the short form for Vancouver?
I don’t know. [To her family in the background:] Hey, do you guys call it ‘the couv’ or is it just me? Vancouverites call it Vancouver, apparently. But assholes like me that live in L.A. call it ‘the couv.’ The kids call it Van. [Laughs.]

You have a lot of experience in the comic world, whether it be writing or performing, but what’s it like to work with Eugene, Catherine and Chris on something like this?
Obviously, it’s amazing. I wasn’t eased into it. My first day on set was a scene with Catherine and Eugene and I was losing it. I was befuddled and confused. I finally had to say, ‘I’m just so sorry, it’s because of you guys and I will pull it together.’ And we laughed and moved on from there. You know when you start working with them why they’ve achieved the level of success that they have. They’re so good at what they do and they put so much care into what they do.


Dan’s always put together and he’s meticulous and you’re like, ‘Ug, can you be messy just once?’


I feel like Catherine is very unassuming and isn’t sure what the fuss about her is about.
Yes. I think she views herself as a very ordinary person. I had bought a NutriBullet to use while I was there and on our last day together she wanted to buy it from me. She said, ‘Can I buy it from you? What do you want, $50?’ And I said, ‘You can just have it.’ She said, ‘Oh I couldn’t. I have to give you cash for that.’ She’s very, very sweet.

You bought a NutriBullet for while you were working on the show?
Yes, for smoothies and juicing and stuff. It’s funny, because when I arrived in Toronto and went to Walmart to get it I looked around and realized, yup, this is what Jocelyn wears. She is a very polyester kind of gal. Everything is tight and ill-fitting, and as you get older you realize it’s all about fabric and fit.

Schitt’s Creek is very much about the subtle humour. Is that something you had to learn or did it come naturally?
It was a great lesson on how to reel it in. Like on Comedy Inc., it was all about bigger, bigger, bigger. So to go from that to this was definitely a shift, but it’s enjoyable because it feels more grounded. It’s like a burger and a steak. This is more like a steak laugh because you’ve invested more into it. Eugene stressed very early on that that was where we were going with it and we embraced it.

A generation of viewers only know Dan Levy from MTV, but both he and Annie Murphy are fantastic comic actors.
Yes! I only knew Dan from MTV and it’s his show and his vision so that’s part of it but yeah, his timing is incredible. The episode where he’s selling his clothes … he was so incredible because you can feel his pain. He isn’t that character but there are elements of him that are. He’s always put together and he’s meticulous and you’re like, ‘Ug, can you be messy just once?’

Annie is amazing and the chemistry between the two of them is exactly the same. They are always teasing each other and making fun of each other.


I was like, ‘You actually have a skill! You just made a functioning well in two hours! That’s way more impressive than what I do for a living!’


We got a bit of back story with regard to Jocelyn. We found out she’s a teacher. Will there be more classroom scenes?

Not really, but what I think is great is that you see a relationship building between Moira and Jocelyn. It’s really fun and Catherine and I agreed that in a lot of shows female characters are combative and our choice was not to make it that way. We may not understand each other in this scene but maybe we don’t need to fight. That’s a Season 1 thing for sure.

How did you get the role of Jocelyn? Did you audition?
I did audition, yeah. The good old fashioned way!

Is that the norm for you?
Yeah. I’m not at that level where I don’t have to. If it’s Canadian and I know the person really well and there is a guest star part … I have been offered guest star parts, but in terms of series leads I’ve always had to audition.

What do you look for in a gig?
It depends on what it is. A lot of times I’m just looking for a job. If it’s something that I’m writing or creating than it’s a whole other thing. There have been things along the way that I’ve been so lucky to have been able to create and have a voice in and those things you cling a little bit tighter to than if it’s somebody else’s show.

You hosted Canada’s Handyman Challenge. What was that like?
That was so much fun. Those guys are great and I was amazed at the contestants. I was like, ‘You actually have a skill! You just made a functioning well in two hours! That’s way more impressive than what I do for a living!’ It was a great experience.

Schitt’s Creek airs Tuesdays at 9 p.m. on CBC.

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The Wonk Report: When Canadian TV producers gather

A Prime Time in Ottawa summary – Part 1

By Cynthia Lynch

(Full disclosure: I had a very small role in helping out this year’s organizers put the conference together.)

This year’s Prime Time in Ottawa conference, the 20th anniversary of the annual event put on by the Canadian Media Production Association (CMPA), took place over two days last week. I have attended this conference many times and while some things never change, two things stood out for me about this year’s event.

First, the conference organizers did a great job at improving the diversity of voices at the conferences. This meant not only racial and gender diversity – 43% of the panellists at the conference were women, according to the CMPA’s Marguerite Pigott – but also plenty of new and younger faces who brought a new perspective on the industry.

Second, there was a much greater focus on audiences and the consumer than I have ever noticed before. There was still the usual talk about the financial and regulatory challenges that go along with being a producer in Canada, but for the first time it seemed like people are seriously considering how to reach and interact with their audiences. This is just a summary of some of what went on at the conference; almost all of the panels are posted online so have a look for yourself if you’re interested.

Michael Wolff

Thursday morning kicked off with a welcome from CMPA President and CEO Michael Hennessy, and then moved into an “In Conversation” session with former CMPA President Norm Bolen interviewing journalist Michael Wolff. Wolff definitely got things off to a controversial start, calling digital “the great wasteland”, referring to everyone’s Facebook feeds as “constant drivel” and calling people who still watch ads “morons who will be dead soon.”

His larger point, though, was that 50% of television watching is through paid subscriptions and that people have not yet reached the limit of what they will pay for television content, a hopeful message in a room full of TV producers. He didn’t ignore the importance of Netflix, but called it a television business, not a digital business. This is a theme that would come up several times throughout the course of the conference, with many speakers pointing out that it is traditional broadcast that still gets content funded.

Not everyone agreed with what Wolff said, especially those of us who were tweeting during the conference, but if the purpose of an opening speaker is to start a conversation, he definitely achieved that goal.

The Broadcasting Titans aka Getting Ahead of Change Panel

Next up was a panel of broadcast executives moderated by Lisa De Wilde from TVO. I knew I was going to enjoy this panel right from the beginning, when Bell Media’s Kevin Crull said that $8-9 per month won’t pay for TV and Michael MacMillan from Blue Ant jumped in to ask him why Crave is so cheap then. (The answer is that it’s not, really, since you have to be a subscriber to get it; it’s a value-add service.)

A couple of things stuck out from the wide range of topics covered. One was that the message of protecting Canadian rights to programs acquired from elsewhere (see more on that below) is a song that all the broadcasters are singing. On this panel, it was Doug Murphy from Corus who pointed out that 1.5 of the 5 million Canadian Netflix subscribers access the U.S. service and that something needs to be done to level the playing field.

The other was the statement by the CBC’s Heather Conway that success requires a willingness to fail – not something we’ve heard coming from broadcast executives much in the past. Conway pointed out that while the number of original series is up by 400% in the past five years, the number of renewals is down by 50%. In other words, there’s a lot of stuff out there and nobody really has the magic formula for what works.

The best part of this panel for me was the presence of Michael MacMillan. First of all, he had the line of the day when he said that unless we smarten up and give CBC long-term stable and predictable funding, we’re all screwed, imploring all of us to stop using CBC as a whipping boy.

As an independent broadcaster, he also brought a wider perspective to the panel, talking about the audience as citizens and not just consumers. An industry that receives so much public support should bring value to citizens and not just cater to consumer needs. It was refreshing to hear someone talk about their audience as people with brains and not just lines on a balance sheet.

The other great point that he raised at this panel was that talking about free market in the context of broadcasting is misleading – people can’t just do what they want in this space; they all have to follow the rules. Rather, the conversation should be about a fair market, one where all companies have a legitimate shot at getting ahead and creating successes.

The Perennial Problem – Promoting Canada to the World Panel

It wouldn’t be Prime Time if there weren’t a conversation about promoting Canadian content and attracting audiences. Although the panel was called promoting Canada “to the world,” most of the conversation was about promoting Canadian content to Canadians.

There were some predictable moments in this panel – of course, the broadcasters all said they just want to promote great content, not Canadian content. Later, though, Scott Henderson from Bell complained about people not knowing that Orphan Black is Canadian because it’s “too good”; it seems to me that would be a natural outcome of promoting great content without emphasizing where it comes from.

The new twist to this year’s panel was the presence of Bill Cooper from the Twenty Ten Group, the company responsible for promoting the Canada “brand” during the 2010 Winter Olympics. Ironically, it was the non-producer / broadcaster on the panel who reminded everyone that it’s the stories that matter.

He used the example that highlighting the athletes and their stories during the Olympics was something that brought greater attention to Team Canada. In other words, no one was crying out for a Canadian skeleton racer until they met Jon Montgomery, then it became something everyone was immensely interested in.

His message was that focussing on the brand itself gets us away from what is important – the stories – and ends up losing the audience.

Francesca Accinelli of Telefilm acknowledged that a weakness of the industry is that it has only been talking to itself, people need to learn how to talk to consumers.

That brought the conversation around (and around, a couple of times) to the Eye on Canada campaign and website, which for me and others is a frustrating concept. Eye on Canada, meant to be a neutral place for Canadians to find Canadian content, re-launched on the Sunday before the conference (if you didn’t know this you’re not alone – not even everyone on the panel knew).

When asked if it should be re-booted again, the panel said that maybe broadcasters should be involved. Bill Cooper said what many have been saying about it all along – don’t manufacture something false, find a way to integrate the content into the rituals that people already have, which is basically the opposite of Eye on Canada.

During the conference we also heard about wheretowatchincanada.ca, an aggregated list from the Motion Picture Association of where to find legal sources of content (not necessarily Canadian) in Canada, and Canada Screens, which will be a video-on-demand (VOD) service from the First Weekend Club for accessing Canadian content.

I am someone who pays close attention to these things, and even I am confused by all the different websites that all seem to be doing different things, however good the idea might be. It was heartening to hear from the panel that they believe in engaging with audiences, and hear some examples of how they use their talent to do that, but in the end no one had any really concrete ideas, except to hire Bill Cooper.

Personal Highlight – Michael Gubbins Keynote

Friday morning kicked off with a speech from Michael Gubbins that I found inspiring. Gubbins is a journalist and consultant as well as being the Chair of the Film Agency for Wales. He gave a speech that was funny and hit on all the themes of the conference, called the Economics of Engagement. As an independent filmmaker who has done a lot of thinking about the current media environment, he was highly entertaining and managed to weave some of what he had heard the day before into his talk, all within a 45-minute timeslot.

Gubbins covered several themes in his talk. First he talked about the digital environment and how it relates to filmmaking. He noted that digital wasn’t built for the entertainment industry, that it’s just the environment we have to work in, and we’re only at the very beginning of figuring it all out. He talked a lot about how the massive amount of choice we have now actually makes us more conservative in our choices – we get overwhelmed by all the choice and so revert naturally to what we know we like. This has led to an environment where Hollywood focuses on successful franchises, to the detriment of independent filmmakers.

Gubbins also talked about the importance of audience and the need to connect with audiences. He repeated the idea that connecting with audiences is the thing that producers do worst – handing over their finished products (like irresponsible parents) just at the time when they should be nurturing those products and making sure they connect with audiences.

He also criticized the elitist attitude of some producers, with the point being that producers need to be asking audiences what is good rather than telling them what is good; a refreshing point of view when contrasted with Michael Wolff calling the audience morons the day before.

He also pointed out that what they need from Netflix isn’t a tax to finance production, what they needed is access to Netflix’s data so that producers can understand what the audience is watching. (Although anyone who watched the TalkTV hearings might suspect that it would be easier for producers to get money from Netflix than data.)

Finally, where Gubbins appealed to me the most was when he talked about the importance of the industry and the place that culture has in the market. Or rather, he said there is no market, fair or otherwise, but the industry is culturally important and by extension so is public funding. Public funding is an important element in keeping more interesting choices in the market: House of Cards is based on a BBC public-funded script that never would have been made without that public funding.

Of course that message was met with approval by an industry audience, but he also reminded us that with cultural importance comes responsibility. Can you really justify public funding when, for example, very few projects are directed by women? He challenged the crowd to think about this and many other things – so many that I had trouble getting it all down and am still processing it several days later.

Look for part two of our Prime Time in Ottawa summary tomorrow.

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TV Eh B Cs podcast 15 – Between a Hard and a Rock Place with Patrick McKenna

812531_drfraserhealeyPatrick began his acting career with Toronto’s famous Second City Theatre Company. Then he took to the road as a Stand Up comedian headlining in Universities and clubs throughout North America.

Eventually, episodic television beckoned. First with the hilarious Red Green Show with fifteen seasons as the loveable, nerdy, techno-geek, Harold; while simultaneously performing five seasons in the acclaimed dramatic series TRADERS. Variety newspaper noted, Mr. McKenna “has made television history” by being awarded Gemini’s for both the “Best performance by a Lead Actor in a Comedic Series” and “Best performance by a Lead Actor in a Dramatic Series” in the same year on the same night.

Currently Patrick co-stars in two new hospital series, HARD ROCK MEDICAL for TVO and APTN as well as Global Televisions newest hit drama, REMEDY. With any remaining free time, Patrick continues to guest star in several dramatic and comedic series from MURDOCH MYSTERIES to THE MERCER REPORT and has recently entered the world of cartoons; lending his voice to no less than five regular animated series.

Next you can see Patrick star in the soon to be released feature films A MASKED SAINT and MARGARITA.

Listen or download below, or subscribe via iTunes or any other podcast catcher with the TV, eh? podcast feed.

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Preview: Cold Water Cowboys sets Season 2 anchor

I had the pleasure of visiting Newfoundland during a junket for Shaun Majumder’s W Network series Majumder Manor. It was a trip I’ll never forget thanks to the rugged terrain, the food and, most importantly, the people. The days on the trip were filled with the most friendly, caring and funny folks I’ve ever met, so it’s no wonder that Cold Water Cowboys is such a joy to watch.

Returning Tuesday at 10 p.m. ET on Discovery, Season 2 of Cold Water Cowboys once again pulls up anchor and follows the captains and their crews as they take to the frigid, dangerous Atlantic in search of the big catch that will pay the bills.

It’s not easy. A harsh winter in Newfoundland has wreaked havoc on the fleet and thick pack ice threatens to chew through hulls. And yet that doesn’t stop Richard Gillett from pushing Midnight Shadow through … until he gets stuck fast. The horrible crunching of the ice against the hull set my nerves on edge and even know I figured the sinking of Midnight Shadow would have garnered some headlines here in the west, I was still nervous for the b’ys.

Styled after fellow Discovery series Deadliest Catch, Cold Water Cowboys uses a multi-purpose on-screen map to zip between boats, zooming from Midnight Shadow to Atlantic Bandit and skipper Paul Tiller, who is trying to make the money he used to renovate his boat over the winter back via crab fishing on the Grand Bank. Unlike Deadliest Catch, the crab pots used in the Atlantic are smaller than the welded steel beasts used in the Bering Sea. But nearly empty pots are the same regardless of what body of water you’re fishing and Paul comes up short out of the gate.

Other crews covered in Tuesday’s return are Conway and Rick Caines in the Seadoo; newcomers to the series are Andre and Michelle Jesso on Wave on Wave.

What sets Cold Water Cowboys apart from other shows in the genre is the setting itself. Aerial shots of green-tinged peaks, paddling polar bears and glistening icebergs are shown against a soundtrack of fiddle music. It highlights the uniqueness of Canada’s youngest province and the high entertainment value of these Cold Water Cowboys.

Cold Water Cowboys airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET/PT on Discovery.

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Review: Confusion reigns on 19-2

Monday’s newest episode of 19-2 was called “Babylon,” and a quick dictionary search came up with, in addition to being a city in Mesopotamia, the term “confuse.” That certainly jibes with what happened during the last 44 minutes of storyline.

There was chaos and confusion from the get-go, whether it meant 19 was helping clear out a warehouse occupied by protestors facing off against the police, or the circumstances surrounding Audrey’s two-month paid leave. The poor girl has been at the end of her rope this season and being assaulted by a protester in the dark, shooting a dog charging at Tyler and being doused by a bucket of human waste finally drove her over the edge: she attacked the douser with pepper spray and was given time off.

Confusion settled its claustrophobic grip around Tyler’s chest; the poor dude is afraid of the dark and being in the dim warehouse, lost and choking on tear gas caused him to leave Bear behind where she was kicked in the ribs and left injured. I’m not sure whether cops are tested for a fear of the dark, but I could certainly feel for Tyler; I was sitting on the couch in the daylight and I was having trouble breathing. Same goes for the scene between he and Paul. I rightly supposed the evicted man and his stroke-affected wife would return this week and they did in heart-wrenching fashion. After he pawned their TV, Paul’s wife was arrested trying to take it back, leaving him distraught enough he doused himself in gasoline and readied to flick his Bic. Enter Tyler, who soaked himself down in the liquid and talked Paul into calling off dying.

The Gendron storyline was almost a relief, but no less dramatic as Nick is convinced he is the mole in 19 and, even worse, may have molested his own daughter. That seems a little far-fetched even for 19-2, but then you never know. The show has thrown us shocking stories before.

Notes and quotes

  • Who else misses Vince?
  • Who else is upset there are only two episodes of 19-2 left?
  • Who is afraid that a major member of 19 is going to die by the end of this season?

19-2 airs Mondays at 10 p.m. ET on Bravo.

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